Bill Hahn said:As far as I'm concerned, shooting
large format with strobe lights is a mysterious and dark art practised only
by a few wizards....
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I would love to attend this work shop, however it is impossible. I would also love to witness the look on Bill H's face when he finds out the truth!....
And that is how easy and how quickly the mystery and wizardry disappear.
Then the fun takes over!
Good luck, I am sorry I cannot be there!
Charlie Webb....................
Whiteymorange said:Anybody interested in bringing some of the excess "stuff" they have to swop and or sell at this workshop/social? I have odd bits I'd love to trade for somebody else's junk. Rapid Rectilinears anyone? the odd shutter? lens cells that have no home? I even have a few cameras that could use a new owner.
I'm not thinking tables of big bucks stuff, just bits here and there for anyone interested... or am I in danger of making this thing waaaay too complicated?
Charlie said:Bill, The reason behind my comments were to try and get folks to relax a bit. That Portraiture done with strobes or any other type of light is extremely simple and straight forward. There is very little mystery to it, but a lot of thought, planning and most of all "Seeing/looking" at or perhaps studying the subjects face. Exposure and lighting ratios though important are not the main thing to be concerned about. I was very fortunate to have worked with several of the best portrait makers in the world at that time. I follow pretty much in their footsteps as I
relay only the information they shared with me. I began making portraits in a time that Polaroid was only passing thought in Dr. Lands mind. It simply did not exist. The only possible way to tune your lighting and exposure skills was "testing". There were not many choices back then in films, so a photographer picked the film that had the characteristics he liked and learned to use and get the best possible results with it. His choice of film generally was influenced to a great degree by cost. The testing though a bit boreing involved someone to sit for you, your choice of film and your choice of light. The next step was to study your sitters face, actually you could walk 360 degrees around and look for various things, Long nose, Short nose, Protruding ears, round shaped face/head, elongated, slim or chubby. These things alone tell you where you put your lights. This is where you will have to do some work/study on your own to find out exactly what I mean here. I would start building my portrait lighting by placing the background light on a ground at least 6 to 8 feet behind the seated subject. Adjust the BG light to "break" (Top edge of the circle of light ) no higher than the subjects eyes. Now you have a silhoute when viewing from the camera position. Next with a light on a boom adjust a hair light to give a bit of seperation from the back ground. Do not let this light shine on the shoulders or ears, it is strictly for the hair. BTW you are still looking at a silhoute from the camera position. Ok now bring in the main (key) light.
Turn your subject to what you feel is best, lets say you like him looking slightly to the left (nose not pointing directly at camera) Now you have a decision!
What do you see when you look into the subjects face. Round, tri angular long and slim. lets choose round. This tells you that the main light should placed to the right and above the subject. Why must this be? By using a term called "Short Lighting"
we can create the illusion of a slimmer face. The face is slightly back lit, with the near side of the face
in shadow towards the camera. Adjust the main light towards the camera with out the subject moving until a bit of light spills over the bridge of the nose and creates a small triangular patch of light on the left cheek. Look at the nose and it's shadow, does the shadow fall accross the upper lip and corner of the mouth? If so raise the light until the shadow of the nose falls (ends) between the upper lip and corner of the mouth still maintaining the patch of light on the cheek. Wow, sounds hard huh, believe me it isn't.
Now when we look at the subject we see a high contrast "Chalk and Soot" image. Enter stage right the fill light. Adjust it to about the height of the camera lens axis. ( Camera lens should be slightly above the seated subjects eyes) fairly close to the camera. Move it in towards the subject or back to create your lighting ratio. Whoops what if the subject is wearing glasses? Raise the fill higher above the lense axis until the reflection is gone or retouch in the finished print.
Lets say you like what you see, on the ground glass load up some holders, adjust your camera and make a guess exposure. We are using strobes, so we have no clue where to start, a strobe meter would be wonderful, but when I did my testing they hadn't been invented yet. So make a series of four or more shots. Perhaps f4.5, f5.6, f8, f11 and f 16. Move nothing at this point but the subject. Leave lights and camera in exactly the place you made the exposures. Develop your film, all sheets at the same time. pick out the one you think best and use it's exposure for your next fine tuning camera session.
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Charlie Webb said:Lay the developed and dryed negative on a sheet of news paper in normal light you should be able to read the print easily through the shadow areas of the negative. The print should be barely discernable through the high light area of the neg.. Now that you have a base exposure to work with go to your main light and with duct tape attach a length of string long enough reach from the edge of the reflector to the nose or chin of your subject. tie a knot or a button in it so you can always find the same distance. Do the same with your fill light. On each string tie a knot or whatever exactly 1 foot from the end marker put at least three of the 1 foot intervals on each string. this is what I call my $.90 cent constant intensity exposure meter. Whenever you set up you lights in the future put your light any where you might want them but use the marked strings to give you the same exact distance from subject to main and fill lights, and your exposure will always be the same. Weather you are shooting still life, table tops or portraits, you lighting and exposure will remain constant
Remember to set your lens to the f stop indicated on your best/test negative. The string system works with hot lights also. Remember we didn't have meters back then.
Bill, I apologize for the length of this , but I guarantee it will work. I think B.Fowler gave a online address for the best portrait tips I have ever seen. The guy shows everyting I know and a lot more. I spent a life time learning this stuff, and there are all the answers right there on the internet.
There is a lot more that I could say, but space simply
won't allow at this time. Like, when to use Broad Light. Short Light I hit a little bit on, but came nowhere near covering it's use. Also corrective portrature, which can save bundles on retouching.
Cool, that's great Bob. I'll bring my Polaroid 545i back as well. I really like Type 55 now. This time, I'll bring the sodium sulphite bucket!bobfowler said:You can use my Toyo D45M. I plenty of real nice lenses for it. I plan on bringing a boatload of holders and a changing tent.
gr82bart said:Cool, that's great Bob. I'll bring my Polaroid 545i back as well. I really like Type 55 now. This time, I'll bring the sodium sulphite bucket!
Thanks, Art.
bobfowler said:One of the most important things to remember with large format portraiture is to try to use a well-supported pose.The lag time from focus & compose to trip the shutter can seem like an eternity to the subject, so any kind of posing prop that prevents the subject from moving or getting fidgety is a huge plus.
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