AMEN.
... and now I wish I were a Harper's subscriber. I haven't seen those articles. They look interesting.
... and now I wish I were a Harper's subscriber. I haven't seen those articles. They look interesting.
I wish you lot would get a dictionary between you - Most of the time I can work out what you mean, (reported/purported) - But in this instance I take it that Jock Sturges is being referred to - Yes, I have his book "The Last Day of Summer" here on the desk to check the spelling of his name
So, having mentioned him, what is the point?
Here in Australia in my opinion we have the King of the Creeps defended and lauded by a bunch of purblind arts experts - I refer, of course, to Bill Henson - I was going to scan an image from his 46th Venice Biennale 1995 catalogue, but there is no way a scan from these dark catalogue images would survive the process of scanning and loading and still be readable
I refer to BH as here is a photographer who works with very young models, covering them in stuff and mutilating the images to form a large montage - More recently his work at the Roslyn Oxley gallery 9 was held by the police for a while, although to me these portraits verged on the innocent - BH has actually canvassed for models through a school, but I will have to re-read David Marr's "The Henson Case" 2008 for the exact reference - David Marr was a journalist who I used to respect, but no longer
Yes, nasty pix are alive and well in Australia - This is in my personal and owned opinion
Now to cop the flak, but I am used to it
John
To him it may have been an exercise in eroticism.
Start a separate thread, please. I will share opinions on him too!
Summary: never arrested, never convicted, never happened... no matter what the other available information may suggest.
Good Morning Artonpaper,
I am sure fuddy duddy is right, but spell check is underlining it in red, I digress - My question regarding Jock Sturgis was as way of asking for an expansion
I thing I have always found odd is that Sally Mann and Jock Sturgis were castigated for producing what I find to be in general engaging portraits, although SM's pictures of nose bleeds etc I am not fond of, but that is part of the mix - The person who was never castigated to my knowledge was David Hamilton, who made deliberately sexual images of young Scandinavian girls
My prime criticism of Henson is his lack of engagement, to me the most crucial aspect of portraiture - I feel the lack of engagement goes hand in hand with his creepiness (a word use I accept in this thread) and the slickness of his presentation
Regarding the media noise over Henson's 2008 Oxley show I forgot to mention the radio campaign from Chris Smith of Radio 2GB in Sydney which started the furore, I was reminded of this by Ross Chambers - Living the the Southern Karri Forest Belt I am too far away to see the Henson show in Sydney, but if I was in NSW I would certainly visit it
Do any of you Aussies remember this?
Yes, I do. Seems every country has a Mary Whitehouse or two.
A couple of years ago I was at the beach with my wife. She was paddling at the water's edge, I had hung back to take a beach scene as I was then testing the Bessa III MF camera.
Someone near my wife noticed me and asked if she knew me and what did I think I was doing, and if I didn't stop "perving" on the children nearby they would ring the police.
Of course they were way out of line from legal standpoint, but sometimes it's not worth the aggravation of staring down a zealot who is foaming at the mouth and eager for a "win" of righteousness (self) over common sense.
Do any of you Aussies remember this?
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainm...-child-prostitution-claim-20110821-1j4td.html
And now we see you aren't just a historian, you are equally interested in smearing the living as well.
Who needs proof when you have suspicion and "other information"?
Either contribute to the discussion or please shut your pie-hole. Thank you. You, sir, are both wrong and insulting. Your personal attacks are not welcomed.
If you can provide proof of your position then please do so. To date, all you have done is voiced your generic distrust of historical analysis and expressed a very unrealistic belief that absolute proof is required before any conclusions can be made. Please present your absolute proof and stop casting accusations upon me that are clearly not true.
I wish you lot would get a dictionary between you ...
Well, that seems to be an issue that is not unique to him. Some others of the same era were equally inattentive to surrounds. I speculate (my personally owned opinion) that the "sloppiness" was a function of two things: the complexity of photography in those days, and the complexity of orchestrating the allegorical scenes. There was a lot to think about and it is not clear that these images were produced in a manner to be "picture perfect"... meaning publication or award-winning quality. Ohter Victorian photographers were definitely interested in sales. I'm not sure that Carrol/Dodgson was so motivated.
Those who obsess about proper spelling are quite often of such small minds that they cannot deal with anything else of substance.
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Not to forget Julia Margaret Cameron's concept of focus, which Dodgson criticised.
Yet despite that criticism she actually sold photographs for money, indicating some degree of success.
Yet despite that criticism she actually sold photographs for money, indicating some degree of success.
Yet despite that criticism she actually sold photographs for money, indicating some degree of success.
Yet despite that criticism she actually sold photographs for money, indicating some degree of success.
Perhaps she did but the family didn't really need the money and I doubt that she was really interested in making any income from photography other than the novelty of it.
Those who obsess about proper spelling are quite often of such small minds that they cannot deal with anything else of substance.
Nothing personal, I'm jest sayin'
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