...the 240 A is not flat field at all. Even with no movements it is out of focus in about the last 25% of the image circle on the ground glass. This is on a wall at 30 feet away, did not try close up which seems to be this lens's forte as documented. So I figure I either got a bunk lens with a swapped cell or what this guy says in the last post of this thread is ringing true...as it stands right now...I think I have a dog lens. I would hate to not be able to use it so if this turns out to be the case...
My 240A sample was purchased brand new and is the same version as yours. It's no better than yours. Among my Fujinon A-series lenses (180, 240, 300 and 360), and my Fujinon 250 f/6.7 -- all purchased new or, if discontinued at the time, pristine examples in original shutters -- the 240A and 180A are least sharp away from the center of their specified image circles. As always, given that we're decades away from the era when someone like you could go to a dealer and test 10 copies to find the best one, sample variation must be considered. Nonetheless, except for the 180A in its center (i.e. on roll film) and the 360A on anything up through 11x14, I've found these Fujinons to fall short of their reputations in terms of sharpness....this is a mint condition black copal 240A, as clean as it gets and was not an eBay purchase...
Arne's tests of 240s/250s did not include a 240mm Fujinon A and, in any case, were all based only on 4x5. See pages 18 through 20:I looked up Arne's ACTUAL tests of his own respective samples of 240/250's. One of his samples was an old inside-lettered version of a Fuji W which I cannot comment on. He had a very high opinion of the Fuji 240A clear up till around the full 80 degree coverage point, which precisely coincides with my own estimate...
Perhaps the market has figured out how much better they are than the Fujinon 240A....There was a 240 Germinar sold recently for around a $1000...
Post #52 includes not a trace of cynicism. It's composed entirely of facts about the performance of my lens samples....Sal and I often differ in details of advice, to phrase it mildly. In the case of the above post, I'd take his usual cynicism with a grain of salt, since many other users of these superb lenses know better...
My 240A sample was purchased brand new and is the same version as yours. It's no better than yours. Among my Fujinon A-series lenses (180, 240, 300 and 360), and my Fujinon 250 f/6.7 -- all purchased new or, if discontinued at the time, pristine examples in original shutters -- the 240A and 180A are least sharp away from the center of their specified image circles. As always, given that we're decades away from the era when someone like you could go to a dealer and test 10 copies to find the best one, sample variation must be considered. Nonetheless, except for the 180A in its center (i.e. on roll film) and the 360A on anything up through 11x14, I've found these Fujinons to fall short of their reputations in terms of sharpness.
At the 240mm focal length, keep your eye out for an f/9 Germinar W. It runs rings around the 240 Fuji A with respect to sharpness, coverage and field flatness, even at near-infinity subject distances. Mine's not for sale.
Perhaps that's why there's nothing in this thread expressing that "notion." Deflecting much?The notion that Fujinon lenses are of lesser performance than the very highest quality German ones is an utter ignorant myth, laughable, really...
Never. Not even once. In fact, this thread, where Drew performed extraordinary arm-waving deflection (and was also wrong), included a specific example of my praise for the 270mm G-Claron sample (purchased new) that I own:...Sal has badmouthed G-Clarons too...
No one posited that extensive testing is required to find "a keeper." Rather, in #52 I commented that decades ago professionals could and did work with their dealers to select the best one among ten samples....the notion one has to test a dozen of them to find a keeper is utter BS...
Now there's a lens that might just cover 120 degrees and be "critically sharp" over its entire circle. Since I've never handled or tested one, you could be right about an optic that's apparently even rarer than a 240mm Germinar W. Is your 250mm G-Claron multicoated like your 250mm f/6.7 Fujinon W was?...250 G-Claron...
Just more "attack the messenger BS" perpetuating the same old deflect-and-avoid-the-facts tactics as far as I'm concerned. Readers can decide for themselves what information is reliable and reasonable....Sal proves nothing when he stubbornly keeps re-posting half-baked lens tests with no real objectivity behind them to begin with, which many actual users of some of these lenses would instantly recognize as highly questionable results. Just more shoot from the hip BS, as far as I'm concerned.
Good to hear you've sorted out the issues and now have some good lenses Dan.
...Once again the 250 6.7 blew the 240A out of the water, totally uniform and critical sharpness...
The premise of this thread was "only contact prints." Based on my test of my own 250/6.7, I suspect you'd be looking for a 240 state-of-the-art plasmat if you were to begin enlarging your 8x10 originals. Or, if focusing/composing at f/9 is doable for you, a 240 Germinar W....now the real problem...I am starting to want to replace one of my 4550 XLG’s with an 8x10 enlarger...
Why do you perceive so much difficulty doing in the darkroom what I routinely do?...
Ah, consistency. Denigrating the ability to see of those with whom you disagree and inventing lenses....the 250/G-Claron...
Thanks, now the real problem...I am starting to want to replace one of my 4550 XLG’s with an 8x10 enlarger...;-)
Well, that;s what happens once you've held some of your own 10x8 negatives
As I think I said earlier in my case i shoot multiple formats with some of my projects 6x6, 6x17, 5x4, a little 7x5, as well as 10x8. Contact prints from 10x8 negatives would be out of place alongside my regular slightly larger prints off 5x4, and the occasional much larger prints I include.
If you do get a 10x8 enlarger I recommend floor standing with a drop bed, something like a De Vere 5108.
Thanks, now the real problem...I am starting to want to replace one of my 4550 XLG’s with an 8x10 enlarger...;-)
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