Leaf Shutter - Speed testing

DannL.

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Revisiting an old Betax No. 5 that I know has always suffered from speeds that are off. When using the record player set to 78 rpm and measuring the degrees of rotation, I calculated ~.0021 seconds per degree of rotation. Does that sound like an accurate figure?
 

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sometimes precision is more important than accuracy
 

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Yes, Chris was thr electronic brain behind the shutter tester shown in WBM2nd Ed.it works wellwith audCITY AND I use it regulary.
 
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how do you know that the 78 rpms are accurate?Do you have mains stabilization?

As I understand, the 60-cycle frequency of our mains in the states are guaranteed to a very high level of precision... A friend of mine works at a power company and told me how the breakers kick out any circuit that deviates even slightly in frequency. It's the voltage that fluctuates freely around 120 nominal and I wouldn't be surprised if it varies 5 volts.

The old record player I used in the test has a synchronous motor, and its speed is governed by the mains. Now I know not to trust an old record player speed to be engineered at "exactly" 78 RPM. And it's not. I calibrated it (the old one runs at 79.2 RPM) to a German-engineered Dual CS-5000.

That particular turntable has a unique design. It's belt-driven with a computer controlled speed regulator. A small bar on the platter passes between a light source and a photo-detector on the base. Once per revolution the turntable speed is checked by a quartz-controlled clock. Any deviation from the selected speed and the needle lifts.

p.s. Shots from the camera are pleasingly well exposed, since I calibrated the shutter speeds. It is rewarding to get properly exposed negatives from a vintage camera. Now I see a need for hand-holding skills and scale focus skills, because many of the shots suffer camera shake and focus mistakes. But that's something I can work on.

I'll recommend performing this procedure (calibrating vintage shutter speeds) on particularly robust cameras and lens/shutters. For example, this is where you can appreciate the value of a high quality-build camera, because you can trust that tests like this remain valid for long enough to be worth the investment in time.
 

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Logically, it's the most sure and foolproof way. Burns up a little film, but still the truest way. Proof positive the camera does not lie; to quote an old expression (I think Barney Fife said that).
 
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how do you know that the 78 rpms are accurate?Do you havemains stabilization?

Ralph,

Do you have any idea how hard I was laughing while answering your question? The best humor has a kernel of truth in it.

I couldn't have made up a funnier answer than saying I calibrated to German engineering... and it's really what I did.
 

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Seeing you have many suggestions I decided to add another one to the mix. I rigged a simple one for my DIY cine cameras, simply a photodiode hooked up via a minijack to a sound card (or mic jack on Mac) and used Soundboth although audacity can work too. Lightsource -> Shutter -> Photodiode connected to PC.
 

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German engineering is no onger what it was cracked up to be.what you need is German engineering with Jspanese quality controland ,I do know a good deal about both.
I think the engineering is still good, but the manufacturing, for one reason or another, is not what it used to be.
 
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