LC-69 Process VSF 421

[J C]

Hello all,

During a visit to a local antique store, I came across a 35mm roll marked VSF 421 and Process LC-69. I had never heard of either the film or the process before, but I have since read that LC-69 is a motion picture film process. I am looking for information on the film and process. As for shooting and/or developing this roll, I don't hold out much hope for any non-cold-stored mystery color film, but I might send it down to Film Rescue International. I question shooting it, as I am unsure if it is unused.

 

[MattKing]

It seems likely to be re-spooled Eastman 5247 - similar to Seattle Film Works and a plethora of others.
Which means that it is likely to be remjet included motion picture film, and probably designed for ECN-2 processing.
I say "probably", because I'm not sure if there were earlier versions of such films, designed for earlier motion picture processes.

 

[btaylor]

I suspect the cryptic description of the film and LC-69 process was an attempt to assure returning the film with $8.15 and .70 postage to Images in Newport Beach, CA. I would guess like Matt that it’s old respooled 5247 mopic film. If it has remjet on the back (distinctive black coating) it’s most likely 5247. However I think some of those respoolers switched to private label C41 in the end days of that era.

 

[cmacd123]

I say "probably", because I'm not sure if there were earlier versions of such films, designed for earlier motion picture processes.

before Process ECN2 there was of Course Process ECN. I think the last film to use that was teh second coming of 5254 (the first 5254 was a much older film also using ECN)

some key items from https://www.kodak.com/en/motion/page/chronology-of-film/

(1950: EASTMAN Color Negative film, 5247. 35mm. Daylight, EI 16. First Kodak incorporated-color-coupler camera negative film. Replaced by 5248 in 1952.)


(1968:EASTMAN Color Negative film, 7/5254. Tungsten, EI 100. Replaced 5251 (EI 50). Image structure equal to 5251. Discontinued March, 1977 (E). Oscar® Awarded -- (41st Academy Year) Class I. Scientific or Technical Award)

(1974: 5254 RETURNED TO PRODUCTION UNTIL 1976. ! ! ! )
(1974: EASTMAN Color Negative II film, 5247. Tungsten, EI 100, Daylight 64. Sharper/finer grain than 5254 (EI 100) (E). Process ECN-2 (new process). EDTA bleach. Paper given 1972 SMPTE.

the page is mostly written in Movie Geek Speak. BUT almost all the changes in Movie film are listed - for example (1959: EASTMAN Double-X Negative film, 7/5222. Daylight, EI 250. Tungsten, EI 200 (E))

not to metion the Big Buzz on these pages (2007: KODAK VISION3 500T Color Negative Film 5219/7219 (EJ. The first in a new family of films is everything you love about KODAK VISION2 Films-the overall look, the image structure- with a host of added improvements.)

 

[cmacd123]

Geeting back to the original question, many of the "captive sales" film schemes - besides using Movie film used Non Kodak process films "made in Belgium" or otherwise which would of course fail miserably in c41 or even C22

 

[John Salim]

Those are KS perforations, so I doubt it's a motion picture ( camera ) film.
I'm also intrigued by the '100 ASA will be assumed' printed on the cassette !

John S

 

[btaylor]

Those are KS perforations, so I doubt it's a motion picture ( camera )

Good catch! Unless it’s Soviet prior to 1989…

 

[Samu]

Good catch! Unless it’s Soviet prior to 1989…

Soviet or other Eastern block origin came to my mind too. In this case, it would be Agfacolor II, known also as Sovcolor and Orwo color. But in the US? Not very likely. Is there any clue when this product was sold. Probably the postage of 70 cents for returning prints would be a clue.