As I said already multiple times in this thread, the real challenge right now is not cameras and film, but are in the lack of good and cheap scanners, and widespread, flexible and easily accessible development options.
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As I said already multiple times in this thread, the real challenge right now is not cameras and film, but are in the lack of good and cheap scanners, and widespread, flexible and easily accessible development options.
Honestly, development is easier than it's ever been. If you have access to a kitchen sink (bathroom sinks are too small/shallow, though most bathtubs are usable) you can start processing your own film -- for a couple hundred bucks if you buy everything new, less than half that if you're patient with eBay. Further, when I was learning photography, almost no one tried to do their own color; now, it's barely any harder than conventional black and white (mainly in terms of temperature control). Color printing is a bit more complex, but you can set up to print black and white in a good sized closet. Enlargers are the bottleneck here -- new ones are expensive, if you can find them, and get a cheap one used and you'll have trouble finding negative carriers.
I don't know why more people aren't developing their film at home, and then taking either the third party wet printing route or scanning on a relatively inexpensive flatbed scanner. It's my personal path to continued affordable film shooting.
Andy
I have a darkroom at home and make prints on a regular basis, but I don't develop my own film. Primarily because in the limited spare time I have I'd rather spend it on the more creative ends of the process - namely out in the world shooting photos and translating them into physical prints. The endless 'what went wrong here?' threads on forums like Photrio, in which users show their ruined home-developed film, don't really help mattersBecause they've been told it's difficult, or hazardous, or they never knew it was even possible. If you aren't already fairly interested in photography, you might not even know it's possible to process your own film.
Because they've been told it's difficult, or hazardous, or they never knew it was even possible. If you aren't already fairly interested in photography, you might not even know it's possible to process your own film.
And probably because they don't have access to YouTube?
Even getting a room dark enough to load the film on to the spool can be an insurmountable hurdle to many people.
Something like the daylight loader development tank, that turned into an big anticlimax upon release after what felt like 10 years of development, from last year, would be ideal.
While I do believe that there are a few on this site who appear to spend their time talking about the end of film, and at times seem to almost gleefully anticipate it, I think the majority of us are to busy trying to create photographs to worry too much about it.
Yep, he is also on digital Leica.
It is not APUG anymore, in case if you novice here or haven't noticed. It is no different from RFF now or any other site.Exactly!
It seems so weird to me that there are those who spend time on this site hoping for the end of film.
It is not APUG anymore, in case if you novice here or haven't noticed. It is no different from RFF now or any other site.
As I said already multiple times in this thread, the real challenge right now is not cameras and film, but are in the lack of good and cheap scanners, and widespread, flexible and easily accessible development options.
You just not willing to accept what owner of this site did after it went PHORTIO from APUG. This site is not film only site anymore. It just another RFF.Apparently. I think I will visit a vegetarian cooking site and tell them they should all be eating meat.
You just not willing to accept what owner of this site did after it went PHORTIO from APUG. This site is not film only site anymore. It just another RFF.
How can it be RFF when we have so many SLR and TLR users? Next you will be complaining about the cost of film.
And after all the anguish over Acros 100 film being discontinued in 2019, now that Fuji has been re-introduced it: Oh No, the price is outrageous; They are trying to kill the product; What could they possibly be thinking; I don't have confidence in Fuji; I'll never use it; Full Stop.When you include inflation, film has never been cheaper. Arista 400 for $4.29/36 in 2020? That would be something like a nickel in the 1980s...
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See, this is the pseudo sealioning I’ve alluded to in the other hot thread on this site.In NA here is no lack of good and cheap scanners.
I have this one:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...b11b210201_perfection_v550_photo_scanner.html
199 USD and it is totally awesome scanner. Very common scanner. I purchased it in Canada.
I also have Plustek 8200i which goes on sale bellow 300 USD once in a while on same site, shop.
And where are all kinds of digital cameras rigs, which are good alternative to scanners as well.
Absolutely! DSLR scanning is in many ways the best scanning technology there is (though there is still quite a number of things that could be improved, that a standard camera and lens doesn't lend themselves to).@Helge, good analogy wrt scanners -> speakers in hi-fi setup.
But what about the beforementioned point on DSLR rigs for scanning?
Aren't they the more 'future' proof and higher quality than flatbeds these days (or not yet (I am personally not that familiar) ) ?
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