KRST and Ilford MG Classic Fiber

[Nathan King]

I did some toning with this paper for the first time last evening, and the results were a bit unexpected. I used a dilution of 1+9 until the highlights just began to turn. The last paper I used turned slightly cool purple in the same toner; however, the shadows in the Multigrade Classic prints turned slightly magenta. Is this the normal response for that paper? If so, what can I do to get a cooler color shift? If not, what may I have done incorrectly?

Thank you!

 

[Nathan King]

The MGIV is what I switched from. Nice paper but totally different tone curve and responds to toner very differently. I'll have to try more dilution with less time because I'm not liking the plum.

 

[brian steinberger]

Yes the new classic paper will do this. Much more responsive to toners than MGIV. There is a thread here on adding PMT to the paper developer. This will result in more cooling in selenium. Another recommendation from me is to try Oriental VC fiber. It still tones more so than MGIV but if toned slightly less in selenium it looks exactly like MGIV in heavy selenium. Try KRST 1:19 for 4 minutes.

 

[Les]

Brian,
What is PMT?
Thanks,
Les

 

[brian steinberger]

Brian,
What is PMT?
Thanks,
Les

Les, (there was a url link here which no longer exists) is the link. All the info is in there. I've tried this and I does reduce the amount of plum shift in the selenium. It also produces a more neutral print straight from the fixer without that greenish cast some paper/developer combos give.

 

[brian steinberger]

Nathan, I haven't tried this yet, but you might someday also try the Multigrade Cooltone with and w/o selenium toning to see if you like the results - you may be pleased. Some folks are raving about that paper for certain subject matter.

Ilford cooltone acts pretty much the same as classic when it comes to selenium in my experience. Again, adding PMT to your developer will help cooltone as well in selenium.

 

[Les]

Brian, Thanks. I appreciate the rapid reply.
I note a reference to an Evan Clarke formula.
Is there a link to this formula?

 

[brian steinberger]

Les, that formula is a variation of Ansco 130. Search the forums, the formula is in there, probably under the ansco 130 thread. Basically you're upping the sodium carbonate, eliminating the Kbr, and adding BZT. I've tried this formula and while it is very beautiful developer, particularly with MGWT it doesn't cool down ilford papers enough to stop them from going plum in selenium.