Kodak Tri-X now in a chrome canister?

[gone]

Is this new? It looks.....funny.

 

[AZD]

I think there’s a notice or press release about this. Kodak had problems sourcing the black painted caps and used what they could get. I like them! I have cassettes for Gold 200, Color Plus, and Ektar 100 with silver caps.

 

[Cholentpot]

We've been calling them Pandas.

 

[DonW]

The world is coming to an end!!

 

[cmacd123]

Supply chain issues.

Kodak did metion it at the time, and the tin plated material is apparently harder for the machines to work, requiring more maintenance, so expect them to switch back as soon as they can.

Makes me nostalgic for AnscoChrome.

 

[Sirius Glass]

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[Agulliver]

Yup, Kodak mentioned this a few months back...all 35mm cassettes will be like this for a while as they've been unable to source the caps they were using.

Back to the 1980s! I've got some Color Plus in these, and I like them.

 

[AgX]

Kodak had difficulties in obtaining the rolled steel with the surface treatment they used for years and thus had to resort to this type with a different surface treatment which they then left as is.

 

[Christiaan Phleger]

Ha what a world.
That fact that Kodak had issues sourcing the material makes me think that within my memory span the former Kaiju Kodak would have had a separate wholly own subsidiary dedicated to just cassette tops.

 

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It sure was a shock when it popped out of that yellow box. Considering it had cost more than twice as much the Foma 100/400, it was nice of them to spiff it up a little.

You know, this may indeed be the end of the world. My N8008s stopped it's auto rewind on this particular roll w/ a few frames still left to go and had to be fished out. That has never, ever happened on one of these cameras.

The non emulsion side looks to be a different shade, more of a blue-gray. On the emulsion side, it also looks different, and doesn't match any of the leader scraps around here. I know a few are from the old Tri-X.

Not particularly looking forward to developing this tomorrow.

 

[gone]

This can't possibly be the same film/film base. I'm wondering if it's still the same film emulsion, actually.

The negs from this canister came out flat as a pancake after drying. That's not normal, ALL my previous rolls have needed flattening over the last 20+ years, and they were all sorta purple looking. Nothing looked purple coming out of the tank on this roll, and the negs don't have that purple tint. The base also seems much thinner than my other Tri-X negs.

 

[Agulliver]

Surely the same emulsion but Kodak have explained that they've moved their base material production in-house and use a different material.

 

[gone]

It's a only a one-roll test, so there's that. Luckily I have essentially replaced Tri-X w/ Foma 100/ 400, so I probably won't be developing any more any time soon.

Unfortunately, Kodak's representatives have told me several things that turned out to be highly questionable, so I'm only going to look at the results. Those flat negs looked like nothing I've ever seen.

I mean totally flat, right off the clips, and the roll before that in the usual, older canister was very curled and purple tinted, just like always.

 

[removedacct1]

Kodak announced in a video a while back that they have had to make changes in their manufacturing to accommodate supply chain problems. This included the cassette materials, and film base. So its not a surprise (to me) that new 35mm materials have different packaging and a different base material. If the negatives dry flat, that's a huge asset IMO. I wouldn't get too excited about these minor changes. (Nor would I rush out to change to Foma 400 as an alternative. Quality control continues to be a big issue with Foma films)

 

[Down Under]

Tri-X should be packaged and sold in a sterling silver cassette, at the price Kodak wants for it in Australia. Here in Down Under a bulk roll of TXP is no longer a purchase, it's an investment.

But I won't be complaining to them about it. In fact, I no longer even talk to Kodak, and I won't until they promise to bring back Panatomic-X.

Seriously...

 

[Sirius Glass]

Tri-X should be packaged and sold in a sterling silver cassette, at the price Kodak wants for it in Australia. Here in Down Under a bulk roll of TXP is no longer a purchase, it's an investment.

But I won't be complaining to them about it. In fact, I no longer even talk to Kodak, and I won't until they promise to bring back Panatomic-X.

Seriously...

Good! At least you know not to hold out for Kodachrome!

 

[MattKing]

Kodak announced in a video a while back that they have had to make changes in their manufacturing to accommodate supply chain problems. This included the cassette materials, and film base. So its not a surprise (to me) that new 35mm materials have different packaging and a different base material. If the negatives dry flat, that's a huge asset IMO. I wouldn't get too excited about these minor changes. (Nor would I rush out to change to Foma 400 as an alternative. Quality control continues to be a big issue with Foma films)

To the best of my knowledge, 35mm Tri-X is still on tri-acetate, not the in-house produce Estar. I'd be interested to hear from those with some new Tri-X if their film is now very difficult to tear!
FWIW, I never had problems with Tri-X curling when I shot it, even when it was heat dried.

 

[cmacd123]

To the best of my knowledge, 35mm Tri-X is still on tri-acetate,
FWIW, I never had problems with Tri-X curling when I shot it, even when it was heat dried.

when Kodak shut down their TAC base manufacturing, they did indicate that they would have to buy in TAC film base when their VERY LARGE supply of base were to run out. The most likely suspect would be the same German company that apparently supplies both Ilford and Foma.

it would not be like Kodak to use a ESTAR base on 35mm Still film and NOT include a warning to only handle the film in very subdued light. That is not an issue with 120 film which is mostly on ESTAR these days.

 

[Helge]

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[Arcadia4]

when Kodak shut down their TAC base manufacturing, they did indicate that they would have to buy in TAC film base when their VERY LARGE supply of base were to run out. The most likely suspect would be the same German company that apparently supplies both Ilford and Foma.

it would not be like Kodak to use a ESTAR base on 35mm Still film and NOT include a warning to only handle the film in very subdued light. That is not an issue with 120 film which is mostly on ESTAR these days.

Island polymer industries, Wolfen. Part of US island group. Largest cast film manufacturer in Europe. A remnant of Agfa/Orwo Wolfen.

 

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No matter what the container looked like nor the look of that leader, it ended up looking just like the old stuff now that it's out of the developer. I mean the recent old stuff, not the old, old stuff.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Looks quite nice to me!

 

[brbo]

it would not be like Kodak to use a ESTAR base on 35mm Still film and NOT include a warning to only handle the film in very subdued light. That is not an issue with 120 film which is mostly on ESTAR these days.

It's a known fact that 135 format ColorPlus 200 and Portra 800 are on Estar base.

 

[cmacd123]

Just checked the Kodak alarus site and the current datasheet for Portra 800 (
February 2016 • E-4040) shows both on acetate 135 at 0.13 mm (0.005 inch)
acetate and 120 with 0.11 mm (0.004 inch) acetate

Now it is possible that they would have done a running change and the data has not caught up. Colour Negative DOES tend to have a silver AHU layer - which would minimize light piping, but unless the base were to be made thiner, a unilateral switch to poly would result in a stiffer film.

see https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/sites/default/files/files/products/e4040_portra_800.pdf

from this page https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers/film/color

 

[cmacd123]

oh and as I expected the March 2022 data sheet E7022 for Kodak Gold shows the 35mm on acetate and the 120 on estar. see https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/sites/default/files/files/products/E7022.pdf which is from the overall page I quoted above.