Kodak to Raise Prices on 135?

[Oldwino]

Seen this morning, an announcement by the Find Lab saying Kodak planes to raise prices on all 135 film on January 1st.

 

[xkaes]

There's still time to stock up!!!

 

[Sirius Glass]

There's still time to stock up!!!

Get out there now and buy up all the film you can and store it before the hoarders start buying. Do it now so you will not regret doing it later.

 

[brbo]

Seen this morning, an announcement by the Find Lab saying Kodak planes to raise prices on all 135 film on January 1st.

Seen where?

 

[Tom Kershaw]

I thought there had been some recent talk of price reductions on Kodak product lines.

 

[Don_ih]

I thought there had been some recent talk of price reductions on Kodak product lines.

That was 120 and who knows whether or not it was to sell off aging stock.

 

[dokko]

thanks for posting.
I have confirmation from a local distributers that a price raise is indeed coming, but not which films and how much.

thefilmlab deleted the post quoted above and now posted this:


i.e. only 35mm color negative film (not b/w or reversal) will change, and only by 5-10%.

still not pleasant considering it's the films with the highest prices already, but certainly better than all films.

 

[George Mann]

They are once again shooting themselves in the foot!

 

[mshchem]

They are once again shooting themselves in the foot!

Find Lab.

 

[jwd722]

Thankfully 90% of my 35mm work is done in b/w. For color I shoot with d*g*t*l.
120 is 85/15 b/w to color so I'm good. Still, it's not welcoming news.

 

[mshchem]

Thankfully 90% of my 35mm work is done in b/w. For color I shoot with d*g*t*l.
120 is 85/15 b/w to color so I'm good. Still, it's not welcoming news.

I'm about the same. I do shoot 35mm Ektachrome, bought a 400 foot roll so probably ok on this too.

 

[George Mann]

Thankfully 90% of my 35mm work is done in b/w. For color I shoot with d*g*t*l.
120 is 85/15 b/w to color so I'm good. Still, it's not welcoming news.

I currently shoot Ektar, Ektachrome and Pan 100 in 35mm, and Ektar, FP4 Plus and Lomo Color Negative 100 in 120.

 

[Tumbles]

I keep considering buying a reel of Vision3 film and hand spooling into cartridges. This might actually push me forward on this. I think I worked it out to being $4.50 per roll for the film alone, not including the cartridge.

 

[Agulliver]

Kodak definitely reduced the price of their 120 C41 films by something like 20%....and then reduced the price of the 135 by a smaller amount.....maybe this is just putting things back where they were earlier in the year?

Vision 3 works fine in still cameras but remember the processing will include removing the remjet....which is a pain if you do it yourself, or costs more at a lab compared to C41.

 

[dutchsteammachine]

Glad I found a lab that sells vision3 and ektachrome hand rolled really cheap, they can develop them too. Much cheaper than the c-41 films at this point.

 

[Agulliver]

TOday I received confirmation from my local mini-lab that Kodak 135 film prices will indeed increase in January. Not that they can actually obtain sufficient Kodak colour film anyway....

 

[dokko]

TOday I received confirmation from my local mini-lab that Kodak 135 film prices will indeed increase in January. Not that they can actually obtain sufficient Kodak colour film anyway....

Those two film could be actually related:

If demand is higher than the supply, price can be raised without problems.

 

[eli griggs]

I thought there had been some recent talk of price reductions on Kodak product lines.

I read a few days ago, news that Kodak was reducing prices on their 120 colour films, by 25%, only because of falling sales volumes, due to over Kodak's high pricing, as seen by new shooters.

135, however especially b&w sales are supposed to continue having heavy sales.

 

[MattKing]

I read a few days ago, news that Kodak was reducing prices on their 120 colour films, by 25%, only because of falling sales volumes, due to over Kodak's high pricing, as seen by new shooters.

135, however especially b&w sales are supposed to continue having heavy sales.

Kodak black and white film production and sale numbers are lower than Harman's. And Kodak colour film numbers dwarf Harman's black and white film numbers.
Price volatility for Kodak films in general seems to relate mostly to volatility in the distribution realities - the production cost uncertainties are much lower than the ones experienced through the last three years.

 

[eli griggs]

Kodak black and white film production and sale numbers are lower than Harman's. And Kodak colour film numbers dwarf Harman's black and white film numbers.
Price volatility for Kodak films in general seems to relate mostly to volatility in the distribution realities - the production cost uncertainties are much lower than the ones experienced through the last three years.

I just read a second announcement that it's Kodak Alaris that's cutting colour 120 film prices to retailers by up to 35%, 'hoping the cuts will be passed on to consumers'.

This article/announcement did not deal with actual sales columns,IIRC

 

[MattKing]

I just read a second announcement that it's Kodak Alaris that's cutting colour 120 film prices to retailers by up to 35%

Kodak Alaris doesn't sell to retailers.
They sell only to local distributors.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Kodak Alaris doesn't sell to retailers.
They sell only to local distributors.

Hence a possible disconnect with the Kodak Alaris sell price and the price one might find in the market.

 

[Ivo Stunga]

I wanted to buy an E-6 film yesterday, but the price of 27€ per single roll just put me off. At the end it's like a dollar per that tiny 135 area of film lol. Hence I moved to BW Reversal where I can have a good BW slide for 15 cents per frame.

It's beyond ridiculous.

Where could one source E-6 film cheaper? Haven't shot color for years as it got prohibitively expensive for a hobby.

 

[Anon Ymous]

Where could one source E-6 film cheaper? Haven't shot color for years as it got prohibitively expensive for a hobby.

You can't. There's a slim chance that you could find some that expired recently, but don't expect huge discounts. Some buy the cine version of E100, which is much cheaper per frame, but it comes at 400ft lengths and it's a serious upfront cost...

 

[Agulliver]

The only chance for sourcing E6 film cheaper is the sporadic supply from small cottage industry type organisations who sell Ektachrome bulk loaded from long cine rolls. Earlier this year I bought, and refrigerated, a few rolls at £7 each....135/36 fresh Ektachrome spooled from motion picture lengths.

But if you want a reliable supply of factory made Ektachrome in 35mm or 120....you're going to pay those sort of prices.

From what I'm hearing from a supplier here in the East of England, it is distribution costs and not Eastman Kodak's production costs that are causing issues now. Especially for the E6 films, production has stabilised as have manufacturing costs. Kodak's rather convoluted distribution network is it's chief disadvantage now.

The info I received yesterday suggests a 10-14% increase will be typical for all Kodak C41 and E6 films.