The bits of the film side that are probably still going to see some decline/ bottoming out are amateur colour negative film & lab/ print films for cinema, even if there are now a handful more prints being struck for Europe & North America than in the last few years.
What new released movie will still be distributed in Europe on film? And if so in what number??
Keep in mind that Agfa some time ago stopped offering their print film. Obviously demand did not justify a new coating run. We even do not know whether Kodak still manufactures print film. Maybe they just empty their wharehouse.
I think PE would know if Kodak ceased all film production.
Okay, if colour doesn't matter.
Kodak is aggressively marketing seeing "films on real film". I don't think they have ceased print film production.
Here, take a look:
https://reelfilm.kodak.com/
In part it is that but there has also been the move to service 70mm projectors. Some theaters also see this as a way to market a different experience -- after all, with 4K video projectors and Netflix, some have been asking why bother going to a movie theater when you can have the same experience at home... Analog prints, especially 70mm is something most can't experience at home.The USA are seemingly way behind on digitizing cinemas...
The USA are seemingly way behind on digitizing cinemas...
In any case it is a fine idea to indicate those cinemas. But this still does not mean that they get new movies delivered on film.
AgX said 'Print Film'. Your agenda seems incapable of understanding that perhaps Kodak is very well aware of the major decline in the distribution of cinema films as physical prints from the hundreds of thousands or more per annum to perhaps a couple of hundred for special/ early releases. It's likely that 2383/ 3383 are now being made in smaller batches perhaps a couple of times a year. Maybe, just maybe they had planned for this scaled reduction & executed it and that this is a large part of the shrinkage you seem obsessed with.
when that will happen (if ever) I will stop shooting film. I don't like BW.I think deep down we all know that B&W will be the last man standing in the film universe.
when that will happen (if ever) I will stop shooting film. I don't like BW.
While the Old Timers (that’s you and me) lament the loss of Film’s Golden Age, these avid young photographers see a new universe exploding with possibilities. Two groups with vastly different experiences both looking at the same environment and coming to very different conclusions.
The challenge for Kodak will be separating their film business from the rest of the company. I fear that a lot of their film assets have been leveraged and cannot simply be sold off. Ideally the film business could be sold to a consortium of large movie studios who could produce film for their use as well as fulfill their Kodak Alaris obligations. I'd hate to see a day where KA is selling lomography film under a Kodak brand.
These Kodak doomsday threads make me want to cut my loses and sell my kit while its still worth something...
If other posters are correct, Kodak's fall will take the rest of the industry with it. Surely thats not the case?
Agreed that Alaris needs the film side. Maybe the Pembroke folks that have Ilford could be a White Knight ?Exactly. Essentially they're going to need to aggressively rationalise certain other divisions (like they did with the film manufacturing side) owing to changes in the printing industry. Alaris had to be similarly ruthless in dealing with the shrinking demand for C-print products - they transferred all production to Windsor, CO & shut the Harrow plant. Again this had more to do with changes in the graphics/ advertising industry & shrinking demand for Duratrans etc.
The bits of the film side that are probably still going to see some decline/ bottoming out are amateur colour negative film & lab/ print films for cinema, even if there are now a handful more prints being struck for Europe & North America than in the last few years. Were it to come to it, Alaris would probably have a preferential interest in taking control of the film plant & the cinema division.
If Ektachrome fails to appear, I think that a resulting problem will be the availability of E6 processing, whether home or lab.
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