I did a print today that I think is probably in the 5 best I've ever made - off FP4! Horses for courses I guess.
I feel this way about FP4+. Flat and featureless. And that's really, really difficult to do in the Arizona sun.
Anyone who will be boycotting Kodak should let me know so that I can buy up the film that they are boycotting.
Seven customers is one hell of a collective.
Only reasonable if:...Rather than switching to B&H, I'll stay with Ilford and my local supply chain, with the added bonus of knowing each frame won't be contaminated. Seems like a reasonable thing to do, no?
...Seven customers is one hell of a collective....
Continued ad hominem attacks only serve to cement your reputation among those reading APUG. They do nothing to advance your 'cause.'Wow, you are really really simplistic...
It appears you've taken some business courses, as have others. While those "stats" might be of some relevance in the general consumer marketplace, whether they apply to analog film in 2017 is questionable. This isn't breakfast cereal with huge numbers of choices available. There are but two first-tier manufacturers of 120 400-speed black and white negative film. Those who use that product generally acknowledge the substantial superiority of TMY-2. In my opinion, which you will undoubtedly denigrate, happy consumers of TMAX 400 vastly outnumber outnumber those who are dissatisfied with how Kodak handled the backing paper issue. They will communicate their enthusiasm to many, many more potential customers than the discontented will share their complaint/rant with....Things you can't see don't exist.
Try out these business stats:
1. 70% of buying experiences are based on how the customer feels they are being treated.
2. For every customer complaint there are 26 other unhappy customers who have remained silent.
3. 96% of unhappy customers don’t complain, however 91% of those will simply leave and never come back.
4. A dissatisfied customer will tell between 9-15 people about their experience. Around 13% of dissatisfied customers tell more than 20 people.
5. It costs 6–7 times more to acquire a new customer than retain an existing one...
Seven, 17, 70, 105, 140. Still a drop in the bucket compared to Kodak's worldwide market. It might not be wise to over estimate the effect of an APUG bitch fest. Kodak probably decided not to use its advertising budget here after researching that....Keep believing it's just 7 people...
As far as I can tell, Kodak is in business, coating and selling film and introducing new film products. What 120 black and white 400-speed film has Fujifilm introduced lately?...It's hubris like that that sank Kodak the first time.
Continued ad hominem attacks only serve to cement your reputation among those reading APUG. They do nothing to advance your 'cause.'
It appears you've taken some business courses, as have others. While those "stats" might be of some relevance in the general consumer marketplace, whether they apply to analog film in 2017 is questionable. This isn't breakfast cereal with huge numbers of choices available.
There are but two first-tier manufacturers of 120 400-speed black and white negative film. Those who use that product generally acknowledge the substantial superiority of TMY-2. In my opinion, which you will undoubtedly denigrate, happy consumers of TMAX 400 vastly outnumber outnumber those who are dissatisfied with how Kodak handled the backing paper issue. They will communicate their enthusiasm to many, many more potential customers than the discontented will share their complaint/rant with.Seven, 17, 70, 105, 140. Still a drop in the bucket compared to Kodak's worldwide market. It might not be wise to over estimate the effect of an APUG bitch fest. Kodak probably decided not to use its advertising budget here after researching that.As far as I can tell, Kodak is in business, coating and selling film and introducing new film products. What 120 black and white 400-speed film has Fujifilm introduced lately?
- You are unable to discern how much better 120 TMY-2 is than other 400-speed black and white films of the same size
Craig:
My best local source has similar to each other (quite high) prices on 120 rolls of TMY-2 or Delta 400. It may be prudent for you to stock up on Delta 400 at that price - it might be a mistake!
I did a print today that I think is probably in the 5 best I've ever made - off FP4! Horses for courses I guess.
I wouldn't say I've boycotted Kodak. I like Portra and Ektar. I can't justify buying B&W over Ilford on any rational grounds. As I mentioned, in 120 size it's $18.21 a roll vs $6.90. That ads up in a hurry! Not as bad in 4x5, $3.60 a sheet vs $2.29, but still significant. If (big if) T max was superior to the Delta family, I don't think it's twice as good to justify the price difference.
No problem whatsoever, wherever you bought it. My 30 rolls within the batches identified as being susceptible to the problem may have come from several sources - some US, others Canada. I contacted Mr. Mooney by email, indicated that I was reluctant to use the film. He arranged to have replacement film couriered to my door in Delta BC Canada from Rochester New York.If I do order film from B&H and it comes from the defective batches, then what? Will Kodak Alairis sent me replacement film across the border?
...You are unable to discern how much better 120 TMY-2 is than other 400-speed black and white films of the same size...
Among 400-speed 120 black and white films available from first-tier manufacturers, TMY-2 has superior spectral response, a more linear characteristic curve (while offering the ability to modify that curve's shape via developer choice), finer grain, and better reciprocity performance. Its 4.7 mil base is thicker than the others', affording easier darkroom handling and greater flatness in glassless negative carriers. Negatives made on TMY-2 exhibit good acutance, something lacking in TMX, which, despite high resolution performance, doesn't look "sharp."...I can't say as I've seen this apparent great superiority in my negatives, no. What's so superior about it that I am apparently blind to?...
I've not had reason to determine that. You should easily be able to by sending the question to Thomas Mooney:...If I do order film from B&H and it comes from the defective batches, then what? Will Kodak Alairis sent me replacement film across the border?...
When lower speed black and white is my goal, I too use Delta 100 developed in XTOL. It's much sharper than TMAX 100. In 120, I put up with its thinner base despite that and the need to deal with its less linear characteristic curve. As for 120 Acros, in 50 years of processing roll films I've never come across a more difficult one to load onto reels. It's the most springy, flexible base imaginable. Regardless of whether using Hewes stainless or Paterson plastic. Then, irrespective of water presoaking or not, bubbles always plague the negatives. I've found no way to eliminate resultant circular spots at the top edge of 120 Acros with inversion agitation. A double presoak minimized them, but still some appear at random. Sheet Acros in a rotating Jobo Expert drum gets around the problem, but sheet isn't roll....My default B&W film is Delta 100, I've had some amazing results off that when developed in Xtol. Low light work is Fuji Acros for it's reciprocity characteristics.
. As for 120 Acros, in 50 years of processing roll films I've never come across a more difficult one to load onto reels. It's the most springy, flexible base imaginable. Regardless of whether using Hewes stainless or Paterson plastic.
Then, irrespective of water presoaking or not, bubbles always plague the negatives. I've found no way to eliminate resultant circular spots at the top edge of 120 Acros with inversion agitation. A double presoak minimized them, but still some appear at random. Sheet Acros in a rotating Jobo Expert drum gets around the problem, but sheet isn't roll.
No problem whatsoever, wherever you bought it.
Those same 500+ rolls I loaded onto the Paterson reels were then developed by me, mostly in Kodak HC-110, D-76, or rarely, DD-X.
Wait!!! You used Kodak Developers? Any quality problems with the developers?
PE
Odd. I've loaded a good 500 rolls or more of Acros onto Paterson reels without any issues whatsoever. Typically 20 seconds is all I need to load a 120 piece of film onto a reel.
Those same 500+ rolls I loaded onto the Paterson reels were then developed by me, mostly in Kodak HC-110, D-76, or rarely, DD-X.
Yet more "attack the messenger." Perhaps you should research the threads on APUG describing Acros bubbles/spots....Maybe in 50 years you should have looked at your processing and found the problem.
Yet more "attack the messenger." Perhaps you should research the threads on APUG describing Acros bubbles/spots.
Kodak, on the other hand, had probably been working down a much larger backing paper stockpile, so likely didn't discover the issue until later.
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