I just cannot believe this is continuing.
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PE:I just cannot believe this is continuing.
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That is additional information that you should send to Kodak Alaris.I will check my expiration dates and batch numbers - I probably still have boxes from this run in the refrigerator.
I sent an email to Kodak Alaris about the issue, with a copy of the image above, and asked for their comments about the cause and possible actions to prevent it.
You can expect more of this since Kodak Alaris refuses to recall the film it knows is defective.I just cannot believe this is continuing.
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I sent an email to Kodak Alaris about the issue, with a copy of the image above, and asked for their comments about the cause and possible actions to prevent it. For now, I will refrigerate until just before use, and then develop promptly after exposure.
In my case it's my own fault since I was royally burned by Kodak film 5 or 6 times prior. I should have switched to Ilford long ago but was too stubborn. So I accept my responsibility in this film fiasco. You won't see new examples of this continuing problem from me as my next film order will include 20 rolls of Delta 400.I really sympathize with Rattymouse and others who have had this happen to them. It is extremely frustrating to be defeated by materials or processes.
You can expect more of this since Kodak Alaris refuses to recall the film it knows is defective.
Another person burned by poor Kodak quality. Sadly we will see more of this.
I really sympathize with Rattymouse and others who have had this happen to them...
...You won't see new examples of this continuing problem from me ...
In my opinion, that particular sympathy is unwarranted. See post #175I really sympathize with Rattymouse...
Do you mean the bitch fest? That's easy to believe. Those who fail to exercise appropriate due diligence frequently act vengefully.I just cannot believe this is continuing...
That would be my bet - especially if the film was exposed to high humidity conditions.It would be interesting to know whether the long delay between exposure and development might have played a role in the problem.
Sal, I'm not really interested in whether or not people do their due diligence.
I really sympathize with Rattymouse...
In my opinion, that particular sympathy is unwarranted. See post #175...
Perhaps in the specific case referenced that negligence should be of interest when considering whether or not to be sympathetic. However, it's your sympathy, and you're free to waste it on whomever you wish.Sal, I'm not really interested in whether or not people do their due diligence...
Complaining -- most appropriately to the manufacturer -- is one thing. Repeatedly engaging in a public vendetta against the best 400-speed black and white film that ever existed, in the analog photography world of 2017, is quite another....that doesn't mean people shouldn't complain.
I'm sure that's exactly how Kodak felt about its backing paper supplier....That's the whole point of buying materials from a quality supplier, you should be able to trust them to be good every time.
If I wasn't on APUG it never would have occurred to me to check each roll of Kodak film individually to see if it is any good. I might expect some problems with a low budget house branded student film, but never Kodak. That's the whole point of buying materials from a quality supplier, you should be able to trust them to be good every time.
I checked my film boxes in the fridge. The bad Portra was dated 03/2015, batch no. 6081 015, and the Ektar was dated 03/2016, batch no. 1202 011.
Kodak has a slightly larger QC department than I do. They can also set the specifications for their paper supplier, I can't demand Kodak produce to any particular specification like Kodak can of their suppliers.I'm sure that's exactly how Kodak felt about its backing paper supplier.
Perhaps in the specific case referenced that negligence should be of interest when considering whether or not to be sympathetic. However, it's your sympathy, and you're free to waste it on whomever you wish.Complaining -- most appropriately to the manufacturer -- is one thing. Repeatedly engaging in a public vendetta against the best 400-speed black and white film that ever existed, in the analog photography world of 2017, is quite another.
Sadly, I expect that it is VERY much smaller than it once was.Kodak has a slightly larger QC department than I do.
Sadly, I expect that it is VERY much smaller than it once was.
But I hope that does not mean that you'll stop posting here! I would miss your critical, and sometimes very true, one-way point of view.
Regards
... and there are thousands of test that COULD be run if you knew there was a need for them. I'm sure this issue 'blind sided' the small QC staff remaining.And sadly, I expect that this new paper passed the routine tests after passing the initial quality tests to get into the system.
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