Everything I've read here indicates there is no death grip. Photographers are going to other manufacturers here and from other countries. Plus they are competing with digital. THey have to price their film wisely.
What are the other American film producing companies, actually producing films here in compatition to, Kodak, in the U.S.?
Do you mean on a pre or post tax basis? The shelf price in the UK usually includes 20% VAT, and Canada/US retail prices generally don't include GST/sales tax.Harman does its own distribution in the UK. And in many cases, it is more expensive to buy Ilford products there than it is in the US.
But what is their net profit? Gross profit means almost nothing.
Do you mean on a pre or post tax basis? The shelf price in the UK usually includes 20% VAT, and Canada/US retail prices generally don't include GST/sales tax.
Picking a random example, a roll of HP5 120 in the shop I used in London is £5.42 ex VAT, which works out to $9.02 CAD. Shelf price at The Camera Store in Calgary is $10.75 +5% GST.
I’m almost sorry that I expressed distain for The Soapbox now. LOL
When did you make your London purchase?
of course with the domination of US retailers due to the HUGE US market, I sometimes get my film purchases from a very well known large US retailer. thereby cutting out Amplis.The last time I checked, Calgary isn't in the US.
The US has a different exclusive distributor - a division of Roberts Camera.
In Canada we have our own exclusive distributor - Amplis.
The Camera Store is required to buy from Amplis.
I was gifted a 4x5 Graflex from 1923. I looked up what it cost, and the owner could have bought a Model T Ford for what the camera cost.Film is magnificent. It's always been expensive. Look how much money an old Kodak 3A postcard camera cost 100 years ago.
Meanwhile, Velvia 50, a Fuji film, is higher in cost than all the other E6 films.
Wanted: free Kodak film for personal use. 70mm only. Thanks.
Why 3 times exactly? If my local market is anything to go by - isn't 1/3 - 2x the price of competition enough? Are Kodak films 0,3 to 2x better than Ilford's, made or rare-Mars materials, or am I missing something here? This price gap simply is the reason I haven't touched almost any Kodak film - why indulge the extra expense when competition is as good/better?If that was true, by now Kodak films should've easily been 3x the price of other films. Guess what? They are not.
I was responding to what seems to be a relatively common belief - that the generators of price increases are at the manufacturing of master rolls end of the production and distribution chain.
Why 3 times exactly? If my local market is anything to go by - isn't 1/3 - 2x the price of competition enough? Are Kodak films 0,3 to 2x better than Ilford's, made or rare-Mars materials, or am I missing something here?
Kodak color film is way better than Ilford color film. Kodak color film will still be work the price. As I learned as a teenager, choose you subjects carefully and do not waste film. Am I surprized at the price change? No. Am I happy about it? No, but I will learn to deal with it.
An earlier reference to Apple in the discussion about Kodak got me thinking about the two of them. Yes, both are of the pricier end of the spectrum but, IMO, both have set pretty high standards of quality in their respective marketplaces. I’ve used both since back into the 1970s and, while I also using stuff from competitors, Apple and Kodak are simply high quality, dependable, and predictable.
Back in those 70s I worked for some years in a medium volume, 3,000 rolls/day, color photofinishing lab and we were all Kodak in chemicals, paper, and equipment. They even came in a did an audit of our production and showed us how we could reduce paper waste by $1 million/year by making some production changes. To accomplish that I was also sent to their facility in Whittier for training and it was top-notch, and, as a result, we did reduce paper waste by that amount, which cost them sales to us.
I was an early adopter of Apple stuff, buying an Apple ][ in ‘78 while my friends were buying other brands. Our experiences were totally different in that the ][ just worked and had a nice range of high quality add-ones as the technology evolved. Later I switched to the PC world due to my need to run AutoCAD but went back to Apple years later and now run both, including Linux, and when it comes to Apple, the stuff just works and, most importantly, it all works together without messing around with jumper settings, config files, etc.
Quality is expensive.
An earlier reference to Apple in the discussion about Kodak got me thinking about the two of them. Yes, both are of the pricier end of the spectrum but, IMO, both have set pretty high standards of quality in their respective marketplaces. I’ve used both since back into the 1970s and, while I also using stuff from competitors, Apple and Kodak are simply high quality, dependable, and predictable.
Back in those 70s I worked for some years in a medium volume, 3,000 rolls/day, color photofinishing lab and we were all Kodak in chemicals, paper, and equipment. They even came in a did an audit of our production and showed us how we could reduce paper waste by $1 million/year by making some production changes. To accomplish that I was also sent to their facility in Whittier for training and it was top-notch, and, as a result, we did reduce paper waste by that amount, which cost them sales to us.
I was an early adopter of Apple stuff, buying an Apple ][ in ‘78 while my friends were buying other brands. Our experiences were totally different in that the ][ just worked and had a nice range of high quality add-ones as the technology evolved. Later I switched to the PC world due to my need to run AutoCAD but went back to Apple years later and now run both, including Linux, and when it comes to Apple, the stuff just works and, most importantly, it all works together without messing around with jumper settings, config files, etc.
Quality is expensive.
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