Mike the original question was buying stuff overseas. No one buys stuff overseas with cash.
The same way you do it at your corner market or anyplace else on the planet. One of the very first things you'll see in the airport are kiosks to exchange your money, if you so desire. Cash money still works. (I'm assuming you aren't just trolling with these questions--if you are, you got me.)
They're not only competing with other film manufacturers but with digital as well. In fact that's their biggest competitor. People can just drop film and move on. So the idea that there isn't enough competition just isn't true.
Better yet drop the digital and move to film. One can buy a lot of film for the price of the top of the line Nikon or Canon and so new lenses. Now how about quit trolling?
Mike the original question was buying stuff overseas. No one buys stuff overseas with cash.
Yes, but that one time 25% raise in beer over the decade plus, goes to show a real need on the brewers needs, vs. the ridiculous, double digit rises in Kodak products in a long, annual habit of Kodaks profit taking, at the cost of those who have used their products loyally for decades, plus new users of film cameras.
What good is Kodak's growing facilities and additional shifts, if they are wholly dependent on large annual raises, that are no resulting in lowered cost to the end users?
Ilford should be supported instead, if they can get down further, with their lower priced but high quality films.
Bulk Ilford films 70mm and 135 should be the point of their spear to recruit their newest users and Kodak refugees, with lower prices.
Ilford HP5 Plus seemingly overnight jumped from about $150 U.S. to about $240 overnight, for 50 feet, a huge leap for an important product I and other 70mm film users can no afford easily.
Ilford needs to lower that price point so those of us using their 70mm film can more often use this special format.
Ilford should also offer FP4 plus or Pan-F and Delta 100 in 70mm bulk rolls to it's loyal users, if for nothing else to promote their choices of films, using 70mm as a lost leader.
If nothing else, Ilford could offer discounted 70mm in individual, black paper/plastic rolls, no backing, of 12 - 15 feet, ready to feed into various cassettes or backs.
70mm film users in most cases, are shooting multiple formats in all their films, especially when they are priced out of Kodak products.
IMO.
You are wrong on this. Couldn't possibly be more wrong. Have you ever even left this country? It sure doesn't seem like it, based on your questions. If I were feeling more charitable, I might send you a few of the pounds I have left over from last summer's trip to London. But apparently nobody uses them for anything...hey! How did they get in my pocket??? Who even made these things?
Mike the original question was buying stuff overseas. No one buys stuff overseas with cash.
Previously you said “How else besides credit cards do people purchase things overseas?”
Just an FYI, one can use PayPal to buy from overseas and no credit card is required. This can easily be done by transferring money from a bank or brokerage account to the PayPal Wallet. This is not a bad idea with overseas transactions.
Am I the only one smelling Kodak hating?
At this time, Kodak's gouging of people that use their product is more a matter like the bankers farmers have slaved under for so many this last century and decades before that.
If you see haters hating on Kodak, it actually film users hating on their financial practices.
And as to prices and inflation, just how much has the actual materials, including silver which rises and falls during the last ten plus years actually gone up over the last ten years plus?
Using those excuses in light of, what is possibly the most expensive material in a roll of Tri-x 400, silver, where is the declining silver prices reflected in their pricing schemes?
Using those excuses in light of, what is possibly the most expensive material in a roll of Tri-x 400, silver, where is the declining silver prices reflected in their pricing schemes?
The most expensive material is either:
1) the backing paper, for 120; and after that
2) probably the triacetate substrate that they have to buy from Europe and for which there is a worldwide shortage.
The most expensive component is all the costs relating to finishing/confectioning the film and then distributing it - those costs are a lot higher than the basic film manufacturing costs.
What do finishing and confectioning mean and entail?
What do finishing and confectioning mean and entail?
And why does confectioning larger numbers, packaging of rolls or bulk films no reflect significant discounts?
I guess with sheet film it means adding the ID cuts along the edge and inserting in light proof sealed papers and boxing them.
I heard many years ago that Kodak hired blind workers to work in the film manufacturing department which had to be without lights. I assume because they were better adapted to working "blind". Is that a true story?
And why does confectioning larger numbers, packaging of rolls or bulk films no reflect significant discounts?
It does - if the equipment was less mechanized, the costs would be much higher. You can see that in the relatively high costs for sheet film and still film bulk rolls, where the confectioning process is almost manual in comparison.
The "shoulds" aren't going to happen Eli.
Ilford is pretty cool offering their once a year ultra large format orders. Like all the big sheet film sizes, 70mm is a real niche market. I honestly can't see how you have any leverage at all.
And to top it off, with so few film producers why would Ilford offer loss leaders? What would be the business sense of that? I'll continue to buy Ilford FP4+ and Kodak Tri-X and Tmax (100 & 400)
The only "leverage" I or you have is the use of our voices, online, to each other and to Ilford, and the foresight to see a more robust product line bringing in people whom still see Kodak as "The film maker", without peers.
Ilford B&W films are every bit as good as Kodak and that together with a lowered price should be the stimulus for bringing in and up Ilford's increased fortunes, IMO.
What legal requirement left over from the bankruptcy settlement is there that forces Kodak in the US to keep producing films for Kodak Alaris in Great Britain?
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