Kodak Paper - I Found This Interesting

[Robert Maxey]

From: "A Guide to Surface Characteristics of Kodak Fiber Based Black and White Papers"

This wonderful little book talks about the surfaces of EK Paper and how they were produced.

"The most extreme case of matting agent use was Suede paper. Suede was characterized as a texture but was actually a smooth texture paper with a special matting agent – ground glass – in the emulsion. The ground glass was prepared at Kodak by washing Pyrex glass cutlets in hydrochloric acid to remove iron contamination. The glass was then washed with water and dried in an oven followed by grinding for 48 hours in a ball mill. Iron particles released in the grinding process were removed by passing the ground glass two times over a set of magnets. The ground glass was then classified through a 105 mesh screen in a vibratory shaker. The ground glass that passed through the 105 mesh screen was slurried in water and continuously stirred to prevent settling until drawn down for use."

One learns something every research session, I guess.

Bob

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

From: "A Guide to Surface Characteristics of Kodak Fiber Based Black and White Papers"

Ah, for the glory days of Kodak. I don't think there has ever been a firm that disclosed such large quantities of its technology. Well, maybe IBM and the Bell system came close.

The book is available on the web. It is a 'kiss and tell' book, like Shanebrook's .

 

[Paul Howell]

I dont recall every seeing Suede, not listed in my 1961 Master Darkroom Dataguide.

 

[Robert Maxey]

I dont recall every seeing Suede, not listed in my 1961 Master Darkroom Dataguide.

Over the years, Kodak made a vast number of paper types. Not only that, but different grades as well as weights and surfaces. We use to print for a few customers on a very light weight paper that was easy to fold without cracking the emulsion.

Bob

 

[MarkS]

That was "A" surface paper- available in Kodabromide util the late 1980's. "Suede" surface must have been from way back.
The oddest one I know about was a silk "Y" surface- sold for b/w weddings, the unmentioned subtext there was that it was impossible to copy those prints without reflections showing. One form of copyright protection!

 

[AgX]

"A Guide to Surface Characteristics of Kodak Fiber Based Black and White Papers"

This wonderful little book talks about the surfaces of EK Paper and how they were produced.

The author is a fellow here at Apug.

 

[Robert Maxey]

The author is a fellow here at Apug.

Well, he wrote a very interesting book. The layout is very cool and the information is surprisingly valuable for a few upcoming personal projects. At least to me. For me, many of those papers are old hat. Long gone, but I still remember some of Kodak's papers fondly.

Bob

 

[Robert Maxey]

That was "A" surface paper- available in Kodabromide util the late 1980's. "Suede" surface must have been from way back.
The oddest one I know about was a silk "Y" surface- sold for b/w weddings, the unmentioned subtext there was that it was impossible to copy those prints without reflections showing. One form of copyright protection!

Ah ... Kodabromide. I must have made thousands of 3R and 3S prints on the stuff.

Bob

 

[Paul Howell]

For commercial work I liked Medalist glossy, F surface, I think it was taken off the market in the mid to late 70s as most commercial work was going color.

 

[Robert Maxey]

For commercial work I liked Medalist glossy, F surface, I think it was taken off the market in the mid to late 70s as most commercial work was going color.

I remember the paper. One of the most useful papers was Panalure.

Bob

 

[Paul Howell]

When in the Air Force we used Panalure for portraits from time to time.

 

[MattKing]

When in the Air Force we used Panalure for portraits from time to time.

Black and white portraits from Air Force colour negatives?
You weren't by chance, thinking of Ektalure?

 

[Paul Howell]

No, in the late 60s early 70s most portraits were still shot in B&W, by the mid 70s that had changed to color. My tech school graduating class was done in color, photo school, but other specialties were shot in B&W. All of the officers had a 5X7 glossy in their personal file, every time he or she was promoted ion or earned a new ribbon or a change in uniform they needed a new photo. Don't recall when the shots were shot with color film. .