Europepanorama - "talian Gardens was made with an ALVISTA. photographer told it was a big pain." I'm curious about this. Are there images online from this? I'd like to know more. Thanks!I have shot lots of photos with Al-Vista's, and it is challenging. I've shot with the baby al vista, and the Al Vista 4B, 5B, 7E, and 7F. Loading and moving film through the cameras can be challenging. The cameras are pretty sharp. Narrowing the slit on any of these cameras will produce sharper images but banding is increased. When the #16 cirkut camera was first produced you could change the slit size but the option was removed soon after because of this.