Kodak - Nottingham (UK) factory closing!

TPPhotog · Oct 5, 2004

Sorry to be the bearer of more bad news. Breaking news on the BBC is that Kodak have announced they are closing a factory in Nottingham UK with the loss of 600 jobs.

No more details at present about Nottingham but have found this Press Release on the Kodak site

Tony

TPPhotog · Oct 5, 2004

Looks like this one and here's what Kodak say on their site before the announcement -

"The Annesley factory lies in the heart of the East Midlands, just north of Nottingham. Here Kodak is involved in precision component manufacture and assembly, for the spooling and packaging of 35mm, APS and Roll Film products for the photographic industry in the UK, Europe, Africa, Middle East and Russia.

This facility is the second largest Kodak film finishing factory in the world, and in 2004 will celebrate its 25th anniversary"

Here's BBC News Link with some more details.

Fintan · Oct 5, 2004

*sigh*

Mark Layne · Oct 5, 2004

Film

It's not a bad idea to keep a good stock of film and rotate your inventory.
Had I not frozen a few hundred rolls of VP 127 I wouldn't have it today

Max Power · Oct 5, 2004

This is, in fact, bad news, especially for the employees of the plant who will be let go.
I must say, however, that all of these plant closures and the tightening up of the manufacturing processes of the major film manufacturers makes 'business' sense.
With the way manufacturing processes and logistics have been developing over the past decade or so, I can't say that I'm surprised...Truthfully, if it's not already the case, within a few years, we will probably see all manufacturing of film done in Asia. When you balance off the costs of doing 'local' manufacturing (in smaller plants across the globe) and then shipping locally against manufacturing in a single massive plant and shipping globally to regional distribution centres, well, the latter is much more rational (from a business sense).

I don't have a crystal ball, but I would submit that it all means the continuation of the manufacture of our favourite films and chemistry...It's all a huge shake-down.

Kent

sparx · Oct 5, 2004

Max Power said:
I don't have a crystal ball, but I would submit that it all means the continuation of the manufacture of our favourite films and chemistry...It's all a huge shake-down.

Kent

I think you're spot on. I can't see film disappearing but the demand is no longer at the same level it used to be so restructuring is essential for the long term. It doesn't offer any consolation to the 600 newly unemployed though and that is always sad.

bwfans · Oct 5, 2004

Up to now Fujifilm stays out of trouble.

The trends are: the film factories and the production lines will be closed down one by one; the film choices will be less; Some favorite films will disappear; the film price will be up; shooting films will be a luxary sports comparing with digital.

Yes used film equipment, including film cameras, darkroom stuff, etc., will be cheap, very cheap, and very very cheap in a few years, if you know the price of those old Polaroid cameras in the fleamarket or garage sale.

jandc · Oct 5, 2004

bwfans said:
Up to now Fujifilm stays out of trouble.

The trends are: the film factories and the production lines will be closed down one by one; the film choices will be less; Some favorite films will disappear; the film price will be up; shooting films will be a luxary sports comparing with digital.

Yes used film equipment, including film cameras, darkroom stuff, etc., will be cheap, very cheap, and very very cheap in a few years, if you know the price of those old Polaroid cameras in the fleamarket or garage sale.

Keep stocking up. 10 years from now you'll have lots of expired film and I'll be selling fresh stuff in every flavor anyone could want.

jovo · Oct 5, 2004

jandc said:
Keep stocking up. 10 years from now you'll have lots of expired film and I'll be selling fresh stuff in every flavor anyone could want.

This is the kind of statement that keeps the blues away. I'm trying valiantly to hold on to such assertions and relax. The future will be different, but there will be a future!

papagene · Oct 5, 2004

jandc,
Thank you. I can't wait to be gainfully employed again so I can place an order with you.
Keep up the good work, it's good to have people and companies like you around.

gene

bwfans · Oct 5, 2004

jandc said:
Keep stocking up. 10 years from now you'll have lots of expired film and I'll be selling fresh stuff in every flavor anyone could want.

A good laugh.

It seems I should ask everyone buy your film then you will stop this kind of post? Or I have to appraise your films like everyone else does here?

The first time I made you upset was I pointed out you were lying - you were telling everyone here the new film you are selling is not Lucky 100 - and I proved you are not telling the truth. Since then you started attack every of my post even it has nothing to do with you.

This is a very low level thing. I thought you are better than that.

You should be shame of yourself - put your personal business in front of the principle.

jandc · Oct 5, 2004

bwfans said:
A good laugh.

It seems I should ask everyone buy your film then you will stop this kind of post? Or I have to appraise your films like everyone else does here?

The first time I make you upset was I pointed out you are lying - you were telling everyone here the new film you are selling is not Lucky 100 - and I proved you are not telling the truth. Since then you started attack every of my post even it has nothing to do with you.

This is a very low level thing. I thought you are better than that.

You should be shame of yourself - put your personal business in front of the principle.

It's hard agruing with someone who knows everything. I will try to refrain from now on.

I do find it amusing that the one with the adgenda here based on reviewing your posts is you.

I had completely forgotten that you were the one who posted that insanity about our Pro 100 film being Lucky and how I didn't know where my film was coming from.

That clarifies everything for me now.

Thanks.

Flotsam · Oct 5, 2004

bwfans said:
A good laugh.

It seems I should ask everyone buy your film then you will stop this kind of post? Or I have to appraise your films like everyone else does here?

The first time I make you upset was I pointed out you are lying - you were telling everyone here the new film you are selling is not Lucky 100 - and I proved you are not telling the truth. Since then you started attack every of my post even it has nothing to do with you.

This is a very low level thing. I thought you are better than that.

You should be shame of yourself - put your personal business in front of the principle.

It looks more to me like a basic difference of opinion that needn't be reduced to personal insults. You believe that stockpiling favored out-of-production film is the way to deal the contraction of the film industry, John makes the point that it is better to support the companies that are likely to produce into the future. I tend to agree with John but I don't question anyone's decision to stock up on films that they particularly like.

It's an important issue these days but I'm not cynical enough to believe that either of your' points of view are motivated by personal gain.

Ed Sukach · Oct 5, 2004

bwfans said:
The first time I make you upset was I pointed out you are lying - you were telling everyone here the new film you are selling is not Lucky 100 - and I proved you are not telling the truth.

I am trying to evaluate the situation here. I must have missed it ... just where is your "proof"?

scootermm · Oct 5, 2004

I have to be honest. I mean I understand some people stockpiling on film they love because of its being foretold it will be discontinued.... or is doing so, but much like people have said. JandC is continually getting new batches of film. I tried to order some Pro 100 a few months ago, they were out, BUT A NEW BATCH WAS COMING IN.... as in the film was being produced at present and will (per jandc's comment) continue to be produced. I loved FP4 in 4x5 and 8x10 but its out of stock where ever I look for it. so I, like most people, would rather fund/support/ and give my business to people like JandC because it will only assist in solidifing the continued production of film.
Plus the jandc pro 100 saved me a boat load of money and I love how it looks dev in PMK Pyro and contact prints wonderfully.

jandc I will continue to give you my business and I admire and respect you for what you are doing.

Thats not a stroke fest, just a thank you.

jandc · Oct 5, 2004

Flotsam said:
It looks more to me like a basic difference of opinion that needn't be reduced to personal insults. You believe that stockpiling favored out-of-production film is the way to deal the contraction of the film industry, John makes the point that it is better to support the companies that are likely to produce into the future. I tend to agree with John but I don't question anyone's decision to stock up on films that they particularly like.

It's an important issue these days but I'm not cynical enough to believe that either of your' points of view are motivated by personal gain.

You're absolutely right. At that moment in time it seemed like something needed to be said. In hindsight I should have ignored the commentary.

c6h6o3 · Oct 5, 2004

jandc said:
Keep stocking up. 10 years from now you'll have lots of expired film and I'll be selling fresh stuff in every flavor anyone could want.

Will you be selling me TMax? That's the flavor I'll want.

jandc · Oct 5, 2004

c6h6o3 said:
Will you be selling me TMax? That's the flavor I'll want.

We hope to have TMax 400 in stock by the end of the month in 8x10 and 4x5.

Perhaps there will be a better flavor than even TMax 400 10 years from now?

c6h6o3 · Oct 5, 2004

jandc said:
We hope to have TMax 400 in stock by the end of the month in 8x10 and 4x5.

Perhaps there will be a better flavor than even TMax 400 10 years from now?

My poor old heart would not be able to stand such a thing. Thanks for stocking this most marvelous film. I'm glad you told me. I was just about to order a box from B&H.

TPPhotog · Oct 5, 2004

I'm opting for edging my bets I'm stocking up by buying more than I need as a fall back. If the films I love now remain available for a few years or new ones come out, no problems stock rotation will take care of age. If we lose the films we are currently using at least I'll have a reserve of the film I know how to use whilst I learn to use the alternatives

Dean Williams · Oct 5, 2004

Once again John, thanks for your efforts. BTW, any word on when you'll get some Polywarmtone Chamois in 9.5x12 inches? Love it.

kjsphoto · Oct 6, 2004

I can tell you this. My money will be spent at JandC. I am just greatful that I found them and they are the nicest people I have dealt with in a long time.

Thanks again JandC!

Kev

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