Kodak films direct from Eastman Kodak (was: Kodacolor 100. New)

[dcy]

Me too. Photos of the box look really nice.

I'm not pretending that what's inside is anything to be excited about, though. I mean, I'd be all over if they brought back something fun like Portra 400NC, Ektar 25 or Ektar 1000. My excitement and money for crappy new films will be reserved for those from Harman, Inoviscoat, Adox and Lucky...

I don't like calling films "crappy". Rome wasn't built in a day. In any case, I am glad that there are a few companies trying to make color negative film. I will continue to buy the ones from Harman and Inoviscoat, understanding that they are not competitive with Kodak. Buying those films is a bit like an act of charity --- an effort to fund a project you want to support.

I am sure I will buy a couple of rolls of Lucky because I like to try everything once, but I will focus on Harman and Inoviscoat because I want to keep Western manufacturing alive.

 

[paddycook]

Me too. Photos of the box look really nice.

I'm not pretending that what's inside is anything to be excited about, though. I mean, I'd be all over if they brought back something fun like Portra 400NC, Ektar 25 or Ektar 1000. My excitement and money for crappy new films will be reserved for those from Harman, Inoviscoat, Adox and Lucky...

Ektar 25 and 1000. Can you imagine? What a dream...

 

[brbo]

I don't like calling films "crappy". Rome wasn't built in a day. In any case, I am glad that there are a few companies trying to make color negative film. I will continue to buy the ones from Harman and Inoviscoat, understanding that they are not competitive with Kodak. Buying those films is a bit like an act of charity --- an effort to fund a project you want to support.

I am sure I will buy a couple of rolls of Lucky because I like to try everything once, but I will focus on Harman and Inoviscoat because I want to keep Western manufacturing alive.

Me neither. But that's reality. And calling it as it is never prevented me from buyin film from companies that are trying to improve their films.

Ektar 25 and 1000. Can you imagine? What a dream...

At this point, anything from Kodak that's remotely exciting is really hard to imagine. They might go totally wild and release a current emulsion in another box or maaaaybe another format (like Kodacolor, Vision3 AHU, Portra in cine rolls), but that's about it. They are the only (proper) game in town and they would like to get some money from this situation. I can't blame them.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

"Domestic"? This is an international forum.

Actually, domestic can be in the US, Europe, etc. Wherever domestic production has been shipped offshore, the quality, I think, has gone down as manufacturers race to the bottom in competitive pricing.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

They make it clear that the exciting part of the announcement isn't supposed to be the branding. What we are meant to be excited about is that they are now selling directly to distributors, and that they've invested in manufacturing and have increased production. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be happy about those things.

Imagine if Eastman is shipping directly to big retailers like B&H and other stores around the USA. That's why they can sell a roll at $9 each. They should make a deal with Alaris to do the same with the rest of their film so it can be more competitive. Of course, a royalty or some other financial payment has to be made to Alaris. Maybe Eastman will buy Alaris.

 

[Agulliver]

I am sure that Harman, Invoiscoat, Adox and Lucky are delighted that one person on a photo forum thinks they are "crappy".

Personally I am grateful that these companies, large and small, are trying to perfect colour film and provide some competition and future-proofing to the market.

 

[brbo]

I am sure that Harman, Invoiscoat, Adox and Lucky are delighted that one person on a photo forum thinks they are "crappy".

As long as you are buying more of those films than that one person...

 

[dcy]

Personally I am grateful that these companies, large and small, are trying to perfect colour film and provide some competition and future-proofing to the market.

+1

I don't want to live in a world where there is only one manufacturer of color negative film. No matter how highly I think of the company, one bad year and all color negative film could be gone from this world forever.

 

[koraks]

I don't want to live in a world where there is only one manufacturer of color negative film.

That sounds rather dramatic to me!

 

[George Mann]

Todays color films are either yucky junk, boring and indifferent and/or costs entirely too much.

 

[brbo]

Todays color films are either yucky junk, boring and indifferent and/or costs entirely too much.

Since people's ideas of what costs too much may vary widely can you spell out which films are not yucky junk, boring and indifferent?

Just so we know what we shouldn't buy and what we can't afford to buy.

Thanks!

 

[Cholentpot]

Todays color films are either yucky junk, boring and indifferent and/or costs entirely too much.

To quote my teenage gum snapping hairspray cousin from 1989 'That new Fuji stuff is just ugh yuck'

Nothing changes.

 

[loccdor]

To quote my teenage gum snapping hairspray cousin from 1989 'That new Fuji stuff is just ugh yuck'

Nothing changes.

At that time, lots of people in the US had the sentiment that the Japanese economy was going to take over the world and started to become somewhat hostile to their products, even though they were almost always of the highest quality.

 

[George Mann]

Since people's ideas of what costs too much may vary widely can you spell out which films are not yucky junk, boring and indifferent?

Just so we know what we shouldn't buy and what we can't afford to buy.

Thanks!

Ektar is neat until it oversaturates. Ektachrome is just ok with a stiff warming filter.

The only film that really did it for me is Kodachrome.

 

[thinkbrown]

 

[Cholentpot]

At that time, lots of people in the US had the sentiment that the Japanese economy was going to take over the world and started to become somewhat hostile to their products, even though they were almost always of the highest quality.

I can assure you my cousin in 1989 couldn't point out to where Japan was on a map let alone have animosity to the Japanese. Anyone not from NYC was in the same basket.

 

[M-88]

I do believe ColorPlus specifically is marked as "KODAK 200-8" on the edge markings.
That could probably confirm Kodacolor 200's "real" identity, though I guess ColorPlus in reality was the "fake" identity, given neither Kodak ever bothered changing the cassettes' labeling, having them still carry the Kodacolor 200 branding.

This is correct, I shot and developed fresh ColorPlus 200 (Dated 2027) few weeks ago and edge markings say "Kodak Film" and "200-8".

 

[Agulliver]

Todays color films are either yucky junk, boring and indifferent and/or costs entirely too much.

Sigh.....

 

[Pioneer]

I have read about half of the 14 pages of responses and still haven't seen my question asked or answered. Is anybody actually printing these or is everyone just scanning them?

 

[braxus]

Put up another video using one of the 3 rolls I bought. Long video, but only a dozen sample pictures to show. Skip near the end to just see my samples.

 

[Kodachromeguy]

Ektar 25 and 1000. Can you imagine? What a dream...

Ah, Ektar 25, I'd love to use it again. Of the last 3 or 4 rolls I tried, half were ruined. A good one (at EI=12):

https://worldofdecay.blogspot.com/2021/03/expired-film-treasure-120-size-kodak.html?m=1

 

[Cholentpot]

Ah, Ektar 25, I'd love to use it again. Of the last 3 or 4 rolls I tried, half were ruined. A good one (at EI=12):

https://worldofdecay.blogspot.com/2021/03/expired-film-treasure-120-size-kodak.html?m=1

My last roll of Ektar 25 was shot at 12.

Nikon FE with a Vivitar 17mm or something. Lens might be just a little mushy, just a touch, on the edges.

 

[loccdor]

My last roll of Ektar 25 was shot at 12.

Nice to see how a good example performs. Mine had dropped to ISO 1 or so. This frame involving the sun and a cross-screen filter was about all that was on it.

 

[Kodachromeguy]

Nice to see how a good example performs. Mine had dropped to ISO 1 or so. This frame involving the sun and a cross-screen filter was about all that was on it.

View attachment 410506

ISO 1? My rolls that had degraded had streaks and bands.

https://worldofdecay.blogspot.com/2018/08/when-film-goes-bad.html

 

[Daniël - Tech&Music]

Interestingly, Eastman Kodak is now also selling Gold 200 (in 135 and 120) and Ultramax 400 themselves:

KODAK GOLD 200 Film

Versatile color film with fine grain, vibrant colors, and broad exposure latitude. Available in 135 and 120 formats.

www.kodak.com

KODAK ULTRAMAX 400 Film

High-speed color film with vivid colors, fine grain, and sharp detail. Ideal for everyday and low-light 135 format photography.

www.kodak.com