Kodak discontinues T-MAX P3200 Film (TMZ)

[Mackinaw]

Damn Freestyle if you must, but it's called supply and demand. It may not be fair, but if they can make an extra buck, they're going to do it.

Jim B.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Damn Freestyle if you must, but it's called supply and demand. It may not be fair, but if they can make an extra buck, they're going to do it.

Jim B.

Freestyle concerns itself a lot with having an image of being a company committed to darkroom photography, and I can't fault them for that. I applaud their efforts. But already at $9.99 they were two dollars (and change) more expensive than the least expensive I could find online. At $12.99 they are robbing the people who enjoy the film and want to stock up one last time. That leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

Freestyle concerns itself a lot with having an image of being a company committed to darkroom photography, and I can't fault them for that. I applaud their efforts. But already at $9.99 they were two dollars (and change) more expensive than the least expensive I could find online. At $12.99 they are robbing the people who enjoy the film and want to stock up one last time. That leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.

Me too. Another reason I mostly bypass them and use B&H.

 

[scheimfluger_77]

...At $12.99 they are robbing the people who enjoy the film and want to stock up one last time. That leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.

So don't buy it there. No need for a bitter taste, just buy from B&H at $7.19/roll. How can you beat that?

Steve

 

[DREW WILEY]

B&H is absolutely the worst for gouging when a film gets discontinued. You should have seen what they did with Tech Pan sheet film. But back to the film question itself - rating TMY400 at 800 and
"pushing" it merely means you lop off a Zone in the shadows and block it up some. Same with HP5,
or even in my opinion, Delta 3200 shot at 1600 (I shoot it at 800 and get wonderful results). For
journalistic purposes you can break all kinds of rules with film. I once handheld a night shot six seconds and got it pubished - but I sure wouldn't print it to hang it on the wall!

 

[Roger Cole]

While that may be technically true about lopping off a low zone, for pictorial purposes I find both TMZ and Delta 3200 serve me well at 3200. I've never tried either at slower speeds because I like Tri-X in Diafine at 1250.

As far as price gouging, I've switched to B&H for most of my film since they finally started shipping UPS without requiring a signature. I do appreciate Freestyle, their house brand products, wide selection and commitment to analog photography and do try to support them but I also do personally feel that jacking up the price because something is discontinued is unethical bordering on immoral. Some folks just shout "supply and demand" as if that makes it ok. I guess it depends on how rooted (I'd say "mired") in capitalistic theory (I'd say "claptrap and rationalization") your personal ethics are. Unless they had to pay more from their supplier or more for shipping or their overhead went up or something, I find it unethical. OTOH, I'm not above taking advantage of it when it's to my advantage. They still have Efke IR820 in 120 where B&H has been out for some time. I have another ten rolls on the way. Sure, I paid $2 a roll more for it than before it was discontinued, and it was expensive film already, but OTOH the higher price no doubt meant they are selling it slower and thus I can still get more. I'm still not fond of the practice.

 

[lxdude]

When Kodachrome was discontinued, B+H jacked up their price, while Freestyle did not. So, I don't know what to make of it.

 

[Tim Gray]

Freestyle has this film on clearance for $12.99/roll. Ilford's 3200 in $8.00+ at regular price. No wonder sales were poor.

That's funny. I swear just yesterday it was $9.99/roll at Freestyle.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

That's funny. I swear just yesterday it was $9.99/roll at Freestyle.

I can confirm that this is correct.

 

[jim appleyard]

It's now $12.99/36 exp roll.
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/1516798-Kodak-TMAX-3200-iso-35mm-x-36-exp.-TMZ?cat_id=40

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

It's now $12.99/36 exp roll.
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/1516798-Kodak-TMAX-3200-iso-35mm-x-36-exp.-TMZ?cat_id=40

Right. That's what I meant to convey - that they raised the price from $9.99 to $12.99 as soon as the notice of Kodak obsoleting the product came out.

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

Right. That's what I meant to convey - that they raised the price from $9.99 to $12.99 as soon as the notice of Kodak obsoleting the product came out.

Rip Off !!!!

 

[jim appleyard]

Even when TMZ was in full production, a 100' roll was about $100.00; out of my league. I would go Ilford or Tri-X/Arista Premium in Diafine @1,250.

Ilford D3200 in 120 goes for $5.89/roll.

 

[mikebarger]

I like the grain sometimes, it can add something beyond 'I need a fast film to catpure that'. Taken with Kodak T-Max P3200.

OK, the grain in this is MUCH better than Delta sample (my preference, and I know it's not everyone's). Maybe I should have tried some after all. Oh well.