Kodak discontinues E6 chemicals?

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You can reach Fujifilm in the states @ 866-701-3854 for sales and 800-526-0851 for the chemistry hotline and they can help you with chemistry questions for your JOBO.
 

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don't see why people are complaining they only package things that the resellers will accept it is Ja and USA resellers that are saying no…

Kchrome was squeezed by E6
E6 is squeezed by C41 mini labs
C41 mini labs squeezed by digital
DSLR by mirrorless

the happy snappers are deserting film etc., …
 

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don't see why people are complaining they only package things that the resellers will accept it is Ja and USA resellers that are saying no…

Kchrome was squeezed by E6
E6 is squeezed by C41 mini labs
C41 mini labs squeezed by digital
DSLR by mirrorless

the happy snappers are deserting film etc., …

If CatLabs could buy the Fuji kits direct from Fuji and import them to the USA they certainly would, I don't think the US businesses are saying no...
 

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I think Champion (not tetenal) made a lot of the Kodak color chemistry. They also sell independently/directly, i think.
 

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Our E-6 chemistry is not based on Kodak or Fuji materials and is independently sourced, and marketed as end user kits.
We hope to have something ready in the summer of 2014.

I look forward to it!

Have you considered selling to labs in bulk to pick up the slack of Kodak? Could be a nice cash cow if you can get it in place quickly...?
 

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No big deal. The pro labs aren't having any problem getting E6 chem. And here in the West, Freestyle has small-batch private-label "Arista"
E6 kits. I haven't tried this, but did discover that their Arista label RA4 kits are chemically identical to the Kodak RA/RT kits. As long as slide
films are still around, there will be sources for E6 chem. This is a fairly standardized kind of process, and not analogous to the Kodachrome
situation.
 

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I look forward to it!

Have you considered selling to labs in bulk to pick up the slack of Kodak? Could be a nice cash cow if you can get it in place quickly...?

Id suggest the pro labs are more worried about the volume for processing dropping even further, they need their nearest competitors to go bust before they do.

Buy lots of E6 and stick it in fridge.
 

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You can reach Fujifilm in the states @ 866-701-3854 for sales and 800-526-0851 for the chemistry hotline and they can help you with chemistry questions for your JOBO.

Unfortunately, fuji does not sell directly to consumers, they also have a hard time answering consumer questions RE chemistry, and more often then not would direct you to a distributor (how probably knows even less about the product then they do).

Not sure what answers they would give about chemistry for a Jobo (or any other end user use).
 

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This. It makes sense that they quit making chemicals intended only to process film made only by their competitor.

Fuji still makes them, as do chemical companies.

If Kodak could sell chemicals at a profit, it does NOT make sense to stop selling them.

Plus, Kodak slide film is all over China. I could easily, EASILY, fill up 5 fridges with nothing but Kodak slide film if I wanted to. Today.
 

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You can reach Fujifilm in the states @ 866-701-3854 for sales and 800-526-0851 for the chemistry hotline and they can help you with chemistry questions for your JOBO.

I am really confused here. I think that one of our posters was stating that Fuji E6 chemicals were not being imported into the U.S. but you are saying that Fuji can help with info on chemicals in the U.S. This makes me think that there isn't a problem with availability of Fuji E6 chemicals in the U.S. and it is simply a question of making this available to home users.

Are there Fuji E6 kits and even if there are not then I imagine it wouldn't be difficult to make a kit if the demand justifies it?

Given the availability of E6 chemicals in general I fear for the future of Kodak or is that Kodak Alaris if it is pinning its hopes( false hopes it would appear) on converting all current chrome users to colour neg by hoping that a lack of Fuji home kits will turn everyone to Kodak colour neg instead.

It might be that "Our Man in Havanna" ( as in the Graham Green novel) as I will refer to him has sources we know nothing about. It is appropriate to refer to him with that code name to protect his cover and what appears to be a fruitful source or sources of knowledge that few, if any, of the rest of us have access to.

We live in exciting but worrying times. Interestingly I am writing this while watching " Thirteen Days" about the Cuban missile crisis which relied on similar good sources of information.

It may be that our source has a similar Boston accent to those I am hearing in the film but fortunately in a forum this will remain undetected :D

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What are you talking about of course there WERE Fuji E-6 home kits... They were just discontinued in the US

I have never seen a FUJI made home user E6 kit sold in the US, at east not in the past 2o years, though someone might correct me with a link or other sign to the contrary.
Fuji-hunt≠fujifilm, and in any case those kits were never sold in the US (though there were sold in Canada, i think).
 

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If Kodak could sell chemicals at a profit, it does NOT make sense to stop selling them.

Plus, Kodak slide film is all over China. I could easily, EASILY, fill up 5 fridges with nothing but Kodak slide film if I wanted to. Today.

So? It's still old stock and Kodak has already sold it to distributors (well maybe, I don't know the details of their distribution.)

There wasn't room in the market for two major makers if E6 films or even some of the Fuji E6 films. It's reasonable to think there isn't room for two major makers if the chems either. There is one, plus smaller makers.


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Let's face it. E6 sales are dropping faster than a rock on Jupiter. (For those that don't know that is about 2. x what a rock would fall on earth).

E6 products have been failing at a huge rate since digital. Face it!

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E6 products have been failing at a huge rate since digital.

Ron,

We had one of our every couple of months Kodak Park Photography Technology retirees lunches today and discussed this (among other things). I was told that a significant Ektachrome decline predated digital by about a dozen years.
 

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Significant declines probably started due to several other factors: the phenomenal increase in quality of color neg, home video cameras (in tape first) and the Internet providing a way to share images, pre dating affordable shooting of quality images directly digitally when prints were much easier to scan.

People just don't have the patience for darkening a room and gathering round for a slide show when prints are so much easier and the quality overtook then (arguably for some purposes) surpassed slides.


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Significant declines probably started due to several other factors: the phenomenal increase in quality of color neg, home video cameras (in tape first) and the Internet providing a way to share images, pre dating affordable shooting of quality images directly digitally when prints were much easier to scan.

People just don't have the patience for darkening a room and gathering round for a slide show when prints are so much easier and the quality overtook then (arguably for some purposes) surpassed slides.


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I'm sure memories of torture of slideshows at the neighbors house probably helped too...

:smile:

But E6 produces colors that C-41 just can't... At least Velvia50.... Ektar100 is nice, and better than nothing, but it's no Velvia50... Admit It PE!! :smile:
 

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But digital can, if you're into that.

I like slide film, but I still shoot it for projection. I stopped shooting it for other purposes once I started printing RA4.

Anyone else remember Agfa Ultra 50? Now there was a super saturated neg film!


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But digital can, if you're into that.

I like slide film, but I still shoot it for projection. I stopped shooting it for other purposes once I started printing RA4.

Anyone else remember Agfa Ultra 50? Now there was a super saturated neg film!


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I disagree, digital can't come close to the colors of Velvia50... Ektar100 has a much better chance than digital...

Anyway AGFA Ultra50? Hmm I've never heard of it... A quick google search says I LOVE it! :smile:
 
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