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Looks like the wheel in one of the pictures is set up on display outside. It would need to be refinished, I'm sure.
One like it is shown in this video, starting at about 2:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6w1esVcoY
One should know that the use of methylene chloride is involved with the making of TAC foils.
PETP is the future.
Yet, if someone likes to share the risks of fabricating nitrate film, I am in.
PETP is the future.
Yet, if someone likes to share the risks of fabricating nitrate film, I am in.
Irrational nostalgia...
It would have made more sense to crowd fund Fotokemia when they stopped coating in 2012. Their coater was repairable. They stopped cause they could not make enough money, difficult to get funding for that?
They needed better marketing and accountants. Their 100ISO was good (I used a lot) their IR (Im assured) near unique.
Impossible's success was easier cause they acquired a Polariod factory, almost as they switched off the lights. And 30 minute mini labs were vanishing.
This vanish expanded the market, eg.
Many ladies here with sling bags conceal a large plastic pola, when I ask about economics, cause a pack is more £ than a used plastic camera here, most say 'a pack lasts for months...'
This reminded me when I was in primary school I had a box 127 and a film lasted the summer holiday. Dropped film off at end of street pharmacy picked up prints following week.
My Uncle would contact more on PoP, but an Aunt bought me a contact frame and tray set.
One of the girls at school had a 35mm, green with envy.
The last lady I asked using pola had a small dcam and small dvideo in her sling bag, in addition to pola and spare pack in padded envelope, as well as a camphone.
It was a small fashion leather sling.
One frequent question I get asked is 'where can I buy a pola film?' always from ladies...
But when you buy Kodak film you are stress testing the other smaller companies like Fotokemia, ditto buying Fuji film.
Today there are no large dinosaurs left only birds and small lizards...
There are not that many people buying film...
Next week I need to buy some Orwo cine, some Harman bulk and some Harman RC...
It would have made more sense to crowd fund Fotokemia when they stopped coating in 2012. Their coater was repairable. They stopped cause they could not make enough money, difficult to get funding for that?
They needed better marketing and accountants. Their 100ISO was good (I used a lot) their IR (Im assured) near unique.
Impossible's success was easier cause they acquired a Polariod factory, almost as they switched off the lights. And 30 minute mini labs were vanishing.
This vanish expanded the market, eg.
Many ladies here with sling bags conceal a large plastic pola, when I ask about economics, cause a pack is more £ than a used plastic camera here, most say 'a pack lasts for months...'
This reminded me when I was in primary school I had a box 127 and a film lasted the summer holiday. Dropped film off at end of street pharmacy picked up prints following week.
My Uncle would contact more on PoP, but an Aunt bought me a contact frame and tray set.
One of the girls at school had a 35mm, green with envy.
The last lady I asked using pola had a small dcam and small dvideo in her sling bag, in addition to pola and spare pack in padded envelope, as well as a camphone.
It was a small fashion leather sling.
One frequent question I get asked is 'where can I buy a pola film?' always from ladies...
But when you buy Kodak film you are stress testing the other smaller companies like Fotokemia, ditto buying Fuji film.
Today there are no large dinosaurs left only birds and small lizards...
There are not that many people buying film...
Next week I need to buy some Orwo cine, some Harman bulk and some Harman RC...
Irrational would be to spend money just on the least modern, most worked out plant in Europe, just for their coater technology.
I searched the 'net and apparently there was an auction for 19 of these in December, so apparently somebody bought one of them.
Except Tom the machines probably have a better intellectI imagine to goad PE into standing there running the machine, you'd better have a whip.
There's 18 of those machines, and dollars to doughnuts those 18 machines will end up being re-named the USS George W Bush.
No snide political quips please. It was just a joke.
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There is indeed one old wheel outside on display. It has been there for years. The buildings look deserted and the parking lots empty as we drove by Sunday afternoon. Used to be a 24/7 operation.
PE
PE
Bob Shanebrook told us about the end of Kodak's acetate base manufacturing a bit more than one year ago:
Here's another listing from the same eBay seller that's rather telling about why scrap dealers are probably waiting for Moses B Glick LLC to broker the coating line too:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
Here's another listing from the same eBay seller that's rather telling about why scrap dealers are probably waiting for Moses B Glick LLC to broker the coating line too:
Tony Blair whatever faults he has and they are legion, isn't lacking in intellect, or a a fool, and before entering politics was a successful lawyer, they didn't have to get an extradition order to get him out of the first grade.
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Intellect, good judgement, and abiltiy to speak/write are three different things. This part of the thread is absent one of those attributes. Can we please dispense with the political innuendo, gentlemen... it often spins out of control.
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so ... whats the point in buying this ?
How would you even move such a complex piece of machinery??
Over the last 2 weeks at my work we've installed a new Test Rig for the products we produce.
The rig itself is about 5m x 7x and a few tons, plus 2 cabinets, one 3m long and 2700kg and one 3.6m long and 1700kg.
If that has taught me anything, it's that the answer to moving anything is "A Big F***ing Crane".
Well, that is only part of what you will need to make film support. Read Bob's book.
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I actually met him today, he was poking fun in saying that if the U.S. won the World Cup they would actually know how a real football is shaped. Nice guy overall, very approachable...
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Having all the machinery in the same factory won't help you to make trix!
The example is impossible they started in an intact polariod factory and the film is still not the same.
It would have been very difficult moving the mono production from USA to Kodak at UK Harrow in 2005 although Harrow has coated in past...
I've been involved in moving a production line 200miles the end product was not the same... it was twice as expensive as well.
It won't be easy for Ilford to rearrange their production on the same site with the same staff and the IPR.
That is not true:
They only got part of the coating and the assembling line.
No negative coating, no emulsion making, no elements to make the emulsion.
But moreover, they lacked knowledge and idea. Both came from outside.
I did not say complete I said intact... So the statement was/is true. And your points are additional, valid and illustrative.
The OP topic is about an obsolete Kodak base machine. Not an intact film manufacting factory.
If you are starting in KAs Harrow building which may have made film in past it may not be practical to make trix without significant capital investment and prototyping costs even with IPR... Three major hurdles.
Similarly Harman are planning on selling real estate to make an enormous capital reserve but it will cost a lot to move any production equipment even 300m to a new purpose built building.
I've seen companies fail to do this. You spend a lotta money and time and the product is not the same and costs more...
So impossible make successful film packs that work good in several of the pola cameras, and a lotta our ladies carry one in their sling bags. I get stopped in street by girls,
'where can I buy more film'
'can you load my camera'
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cause I carry a camera in hand!
But the impossible film is not the same... The Kodak instant film was nice film...
First your comment was helpful so no need for apology and thanks.
But some of our people are artists, arts degrees, beautiful photos like Ansells...
They are neither production engineers nor photo engineers nor IPR engineers...
Maybe we need a montage of yellow dinosaurs one with legs in air with Kodachrome on side one browsing with trix on side.
Would that be too ambiguous?
The firm listing this is one of the Closed factory close out firms. The only item I saw that was Film related that might be interesting is a collectable Blackberry film code reader. (before they thought of making text pagers and cell Phones.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Research-In...514?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e87c764d2
Interesting only because it is the FIRST blackberry product, and persumable still useful in editing your movie if you are not doing Digital intermediate.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Research-In...514?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e87c764d2
Interesting only because it is the FIRST blackberry product, and persumable still useful in editing your movie if you are not doing Digital intermediate.
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