KODAK - BRING BACK Tmax 3200 !!! Asap pls.

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I loved Superia 1600 for photographing gigs and occasionally theatre. I used the Konica 3200 C41 film once in medium format for a wedding, in 6x6 the grain wasn't too bad and certainly provided photos that no other film could have and digital could not back in 2005.
 

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+1 for the Superia 1600, I also used a lot of it professionally in local theater shots and always was happy with the results. I always thought it was find grained for it's speed.
The Konica 3200 on the other hand, I thought had very large grain and I must admit I didn't like it.

Superia 1600 is great at box speed, but it's absolutely outstanding if shot at 800, much more saturated colors with very good shadow detail and very visible but attractive grain. Superia 800 doesn't even come close to matching over exposed Superia 1600. That being said, both are ridiculously expensive now. I have a brick of Superia 800 and a precious few remaining rolls of Superia 1600 in my freezer. I'm not sure which I value more now, Superia 1600 or Aerochrome.

I also really want T-Max 3200 to be released in 120 or hell, how cool would it be to have it available in 4x5. I have a very strong dislike of Delta 3200, I'd rather push HP5+ to 3200 than shoot Delta 3200
 

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I like Delta 3200 in 120 but not as much in 35mm. It looks too soft, seems to lack detail. I do have a couple of rolls of TMAX-3200 but as you say....I usually prefer to simply push HP5+

Most of my very low light B&W photography, under normal circumstances, is gigs in small to medium sized venues....most often from the front row or standing right in front of the stage. Nothing else quite captures the atmosphere of a small, intimate music venue. And the musicians I photographed in 2019 seemed to agree.

My first experiences with Fuji Super-G 1600 were at the LA2 in London mid 90s photographing a rock band who had a spectacular light show. I was right at the front, with the venue slightly oversold so there was jostling but no real crushing. It was magical to be able to take photos without a flash and actually capture the light show as it looked. The later Superia 1600 was indeed superior, much less grain. I had the honour of photographing that band over a 20 year period. They're looking at coming out of hiatus next year and have already requested my presence along with my cameras. It's nice to be an amateur and get noticed when there are professionals there.

I used to use Delta 3200 for taking night shots of streets, beaches, churches which had been lit from the outside. When film was "cheap" I would often have one roll with me when going on holiday, and it works really well for that purpose.
 

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I like Delta 3200 in 120 but not as much in 35mm. It looks too soft, seems to lack detail. I do have a couple of rolls of TMAX-3200 but as you say....I usually prefer to simply push HP5+

Most of my very low light B&W photography, under normal circumstances, is gigs in small to medium sized venues....most often from the front row or standing right in front of the stage. Nothing else quite captures the atmosphere of a small, intimate music venue. And the musicians I photographed in 2019 seemed to agree.

My first experiences with Fuji Super-G 1600 were at the LA2 in London mid 90s photographing a rock band who had a spectacular light show. I was right at the front, with the venue slightly oversold so there was jostling but no real crushing. It was magical to be able to take photos without a flash and actually capture the light show as it looked. The later Superia 1600 was indeed superior, much less grain. I had the honour of photographing that band over a 20 year period. They're looking at coming out of hiatus next year and have already requested my presence along with my cameras. It's nice to be an amateur and get noticed when there are professionals there.

I used to use Delta 3200 for taking night shots of streets, beaches, churches which had been lit from the outside. When film was "cheap" I would often have one roll with me when going on holiday, and it works really well for that purpose.

I could live with Delta 3200's mushy grain if the contrast with it wasn't so abysmally low and honestly weird. It's like everything clips and so it's black, white, and tons of grey midtones. I've developed it with adding time etc to try to increase contrast but the film just never responds how I want. I typically end up barely being able to print it at grade 5 or resorting to lith printing to rescue it. I've tried it many times in different developers and have never got anything I really like from it. I've heard it works a lot better at 1600, but if I could use 1600, I'd just shoot HP5+ which holds a surprising amount of shadow detail at 1600 (but really starts to break down at 3200).
 
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