Have you done any at 3200?
It is just finished now.....here is a first shot of new Tmax3200. I decided on E.I.
ISO 800 because of outdoor and daylight
I had no need of highest speed at E.I.
6400/12800..first.....!
But from my point it is real smaller grained at lower E.I.'s.
(If you may see ISO 800 as "low" )
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.....and from tonals - also not "bad" but from this shot not it isn't the intention on tonals.
with regards
It's real simple. Film productions requires a vast economy of scale to make it suitably profitable for the manufacturer. Ilford is the ONE company on the planet where photographic film is their core business. Without film, Ilford does not exist. The other two companies have been very vocal and demonstrative about how film is not their core business.
While film use is growing, it is growing in very very tiny steps. We are NOT returning to the glory days when millions upon millions upon millions of people shoot film. Therefore, an increase in supply of film represents a significant dilution of the customer base. Ilford will most certainly sell less D3200, possibly a lot less. Many salivate and buying anything, absolutely anything, with a K on it. It does not matter that this resurrected film is hardly any improvement at all over Delta 3200. It just has a K on it. That's all it takes. It is very dangerous to weaken the one company who is truly dedicated enough to make film their core business.
More choice can be bad. It is certainly not automatic that it is good. That's too simplistic in thinking.
Correction. Films used to require vast economies of scale. It appears Kodak may have set up smaller runs that are economically viable. If so, core business or not will be irrelevant.
No not jetHave you done any at 3200?
This film is coming from Building 38, a facility so oversized that it can (in the words of PE), coat today's annual world wide film consumption in a single day. That's the coating speed, not counting the time it takes to change formulations and other ancillary changes needed to start a new production run.
You think that large has been right sized?
They can coat batches as small as one mile long by machine width - this was covered in the Kodakery podcast a few months ago. However, they generally prefer to coat in larger quantities in one go rather than several small coating runs. The PE quote you are relying on was (I recall) to do with coating a year's supply of Kodachrome in the 1990s. Ilford are almost exactly the same in terms of minimum coating length.
This film was discontinued due to lack of interest.
That's right! Besides which, it was also not competitively priced and irregularly available. And today there is even less interest in high speed B&W films (except a miniscule smattering of Photrions) when a simple digital camera can reach many, many times higher ISO and quality without the attendant costs of processing. Times have changed, but KA is still riding around in circles on their penny farthings.
Of course, Kodak Alaris needs to find a way to make a penny (somehow), so why not release a film of perpetually low popularity and uptake and rake in a few millions? Yeah, they thought about that with Ektachrome Mk II (where is it!?). Ilford's Delta does well because it is available (widely) in 120 — this is more popular than the nursery 35mm format.
Indeed an interesting observation!I find it very interesting that two companies have promised an E6 film and ended up producing a black and white one instead. Very interesting.
No not jet- I've just had this single roll and made more than 25 shots of the same motive in same framing (within 10min.) with little exposure series.
At E.I. ISO 800 + corrections.
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That would be nice but I've some Delta 3200 wich are not so bad (from my point) AND I've also Tmax3200 from last batch in 135-36. By the way I have an offer from cheap Tmax3200 on a big core in 70mm. I am not 100% sure from my decision. Because of the cutting to 120 rolls. But it would be smart to shot with it with my P67II in 6x7. In march I will decide....Trendland, are you in the us? I have very late production p3200 (late 2014 date/6 rolls) that I would send you to play with. Always refrigerated
Pm me if interested
It should be less than 4% of the year 2000 top by the way. (1,5% from my point) but it becomes more and more.....Do these tiny batches make enough margin to operate and maintain an enormous building like 38? Kodak sells at most 4% of the film it did from its peak.
No, T-Max 3200 is finer-grained than Delta 3200, by a considerable margin. I tested them a while back. The Kodak material is about ISO 800–1000, and the Ilford stuff is about ISO 1000–1250. Neopan 1600 clocked in at around ISO 650.
Neopan 1600 is the best film I have ever tried at ISO 1600. Excelent tones, great contrast in any situation, shadows with detail, and fairly controlled grain (withh dicroic enlarger was pretty fine). Far away from the second best at 1600 that will be for me Tri-X. I don't like Delta 3200 and I didn't like TMax 3200.
Perhaps this new TMax 3200 deserves a try seeing the first shoots...
Neopan 1600 is the best film I have ever tried at ISO 1600. Excelent tones, great contrast in any situation, shadows with detail, and fairly controlled grain (withh dicroic enlarger was pretty fine). Far away from the second best at 1600 that will be for me Tri-X. I don't like Delta 3200 and I didn't like TMax 3200.
Perhaps this new TMax 3200 deserves a try seeing the first shoots...
Neopan 1600 is the best film I have ever tried at ISO 1600. Excelent tones, great contrast in any situation, shadows with detail, and fairly controlled grain (withh dicroic enlarger was pretty fine). Far away from the second best at 1600 that will be for me Tri-X. I don't like Delta 3200 and I didn't like TMax 3200.
Perhaps this new TMax 3200 deserves a try seeing the first shoots...
And Tri-X is supposed to be somewhere around 250, and the results are much more pleasant for me at 1600 than Delta 3200 or TMax 3200.
So no way with such E.I.'s on C41.
No way in color outside digital.
There was Superia 1600, an excellent C41 film which I used a lot (perhaps still available in japan as 'Natura 1600').
In the past Konica had a ISO 3200 color film.
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