That's a ridiculous thing to say. They are trying to figure out how to survive.
Kodak Alaris discontinues BW400CN film
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That's a ridiculous thing to say. They are trying to figure out how to survive.
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Are you certain that information from KA would significantly boost film sales?
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But is that due to negligence on the part of film manufacturers or just and evolutionary shift in the way that the majority of people capture images / video?
Given that other competing film manufacturers have found ways to successfully introduce new film-related products and services into the same general market space, and have become "robustly profitable" within that space, can EK/KA afford to leave stones unturned?
Ken
The 'bread and butter' of the Kodak film marketplace was the consumer market. I don't know of any company that is "robustly profitable" within that market at this time.
That "robustly profitable" was a designation used by Simon Galley.
The market of Ilford Photo differs from the consumer market of the big ones.
Furthermore that designation was used refering to Harman, not especially to Ilford Photo.
Basically I share the view of Prof. Pixel. Though Fuji seems to be quite successful with their Instax range in some regions.
The market of Ilford Photo differs from the consumer market of the big ones.
Furthermore that designation was used refering to Harman, not especially to Ilford Photo.
Basically I share the view of Prof. Pixel. Though Fuji seems to be quite successful with their Instax range in some regions.
Then perhaps they need to turn a few more unturned stones. Markets changed. This isn't the 1980s.
Ken
Be a good chap and PM me the spread sheet that shows the past year of sales, would you? Much appreciated....
What is the title of this thread again?
Ken
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I think....but I can't be sure...."Kodak Discontinues a film that was last coated likely in 2008-11-ish and was never a big seller even in Film's heyday".....
Better yet would be if it just read "Sad News"....
Try to maintain focus...
Ken
Ken
"Location: The highest state"
Is that "high" as in altitude or or "high" as in something else. Whatever it is, it has given you a great sense of clarity and an equally great sense of humor. LOL at post 238!
Is that "high" as in altitude or or "high" as in something else. Whatever it is, it has given you a great sense of clarity and an equally great sense of humor. LOL at post 238!
OK....how bout' this?
If you stick a Cheerio in yer' butt to try and stop the gas from leaking out, all you have done is ruined a perfectly good Cheerio....
I figured with all the hot air on this thread and all, well....you know....
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I am NEVER eating breakfast at your house, Dan!
I agree with the sentiment and made a comment earlier reflecting on the humor being spread by such gaseous comment.
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I had a talk with my lab recently. They'll be able to do a few things that might enable me to return to film. We'll see how it goes.
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Listen, the Kodak Alaris deal was not made to save film or even the Kodak brand. It was made to save the Kodak Pension Fund. Faced by the threat of liquidation, they just stuffed any asset in there that they could get their hands on to stuff the balance sheet of the fund. Film just happened to tag along.
They had no business plan or any idea what they woud do beyond the approval of the pensions regulator.
To sell film today, it's not enough to be a business man. You have to be an idealist too. If you just want to make fast money, there are other lines of business. Like online gambling. Extremely fast money and very little effort. Does it inform and elevate humanity, like photography has done? I doubt it.
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Yes, INSTAX is a huge selling film for Fuji. You can find it almost anywhere here in Asia. I just wish that they promoted the larger version rather than the mini. I bought both my kids INSTAX mini's. They love it and for the life of me, I STILL cannot resist holding those films and watching them develop. That just never gets old.
No argument from me. I thought that's what I've been implying.
It may be that digital cameras (and smart phones) haven't completely taken over the consumer market in Asia so Instax is an attractive alternative. In other parts of the world - where digital has already taken over the consumer market - it's not so big (as I understand).
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agree with your assessment, lots..
Not at all. EVERYONE has a digital camera of some sorts here. Mostly cell phones, with compacts and DSLR's there too. Everyone. You cannot go to ANY tourist site in China and not see what seems like 50,000 cell phones snapping pictures.
The transition from film to digital is long over here in Asia. There are no consumers at all shooting film, only enthusiasts.
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