Kodacolor 100. New

brbo said:

English is not my first language, so I might've missed where EK said in plain English which existing film is Kodacolor 100 and which is Kodacolor 200... Can you tell us so we and the YT folks can stop guessing?

We all know Kodocolor 100/200 are not new films. It would be beyond crazy for EK to come up with new films as shitty as that.

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Your English is fine. They stated existing and didn't say which. There are a limited number of options...

As to which films they are, the guesses in this thread are probably as good a guess as you'll get. Interestingly, nobody seems to have authoritative contacts within Kodak to ask, nor has anyone asked Mr. Mooney, who is quite responsive to most questions about Kodak.

I doubt that they are the same film as something you can buy new in another box, with a different version/name on it.
They may very well be basically the same as an older iteration of a no longer made film, adjusted due to concerns about current costs and component availability concerns. Or even just adjusted so the old emulsions can be used with Estar base, instead of the acetate base that the older version came on.

… unless the rebranding is to simply make the old branding obsolete. Specifically, replacement for improved marketing versus an additional product SKU. That wouldn’t surprise me at all.

BrianShaw said:

The greater point, perhaps, is that ALL products wherever made have been in a "race to the bottom" for decades. Cost control and maintaining market shre has been a major problem for a long time. Kodacolor 100 and 200 quality hasn't changed... they are what the are: an existing product that is at whatever level they always were at. If anything, the quality associated with the name "Kodacolor" may be different now than it was in the olden days but comparing then to now could be a fool's errand.

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I think the quality has gone down much more once domestic producers started to send manufacturing offshore to reduce prices.

That’s fine. You’re entitled to an opinion. But what does that have to do with Kodacolor 100 and 200? That’s the topic most of us are discussing.

Alan Edward Klein said:

My new GE Profile washer does not work as well as their last one, especially in the spin cycle. You have to keep readjusting the balance. Made in China? Wherever it's not as good.

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GE doesn't make appliances. GE is a brand of Haier, a Chinese company

The Lucky (appropriate name) color negative film is coming probably be cheap cheap

Wow how this thread got derailed quickly. People want to know which of Kodak's existing films being made are the new Kodacolors. Based on what Ive seen so far, and already mentioned, the 100 is Lomo 100. They did say existing films and an old or new version of Gold 100 wouldnt make sense, partly because Gold 100 is not being made today. Kodak VR Plus 100 is being made (under Lomo 100). That would meet the requirements of Kodaks statement of existing films already being made today. I was really hoping Kodacolor 100 would be a reissue of Gold 100, but alas it doesnt seem to be the case. Gold 100 was my favorite C41 film. I tend to like more saturated colors, which Kodacolor 100 does not have. I really wish we could get back Portra 160VC film, and even Portra 400UC. My next video on this new film is on hold until I can get my PC up and running again. I tried rendering the video on my laptop and it was taking 8 days to export. 4 days in on that and my damn laptop did an update and restarted my computer, making 4 days of work tossed out.

mshchem said:

The Lucky (appropriate name) color negative film is coming probably be cheap cheap

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Lucky have made it clear that the level of investment they've made into bringing colour film back into production means it will not be "cheap cheap". Though it may just undercut Kodacolor. Since it's not on the market yet, it's difficult to know but $8-9 a roll has been mentioned.

Kodacolor 100, if it is an existing film (as Kodak tell us it is) logically would be what's been previously sold as Lomography 100. Which the intended market will be fine with. Personally I prefer the older versions to Gold anyway. So I am happy that Kodacolor 100 and 200 will be available alongside Gold 200. Keeps everyone happy.

Not to go off on another tangent, Refixlab has Lucky 200 135-36 film for sale at $9.99.

https://reflxlab.com/products/1-roll-lucky-color-200-film-36exp

Flat rate shipping of $5.00 per order.

It would be interesting to see the new Kodacolor 200 vs Lucky 200.