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I have an old wrist injury that has resulted in chronic tendonitis of my thumb. along with a weakening of the wrist. The small knobs on my 4x5s are murder. The Doctor has told me that it will just get worse over time. After a day of shooting I will come home and not be able to grip anything with my right hand, the hand will be swollen, and excruciating pain.

Anyone else out there have hand troubles who use view cameras? What do you do to keep the pain to a minimum?

The doctor said stop using the view cameras. Bugger that.
 

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mark said:
I have an old wrist injury that has resulted in chronic tendonitis of my thumb. along with a weakening of the wrist. The small knobs on my 4x5s are murder. The Doctor has told me that it will just get worse over time. After a day of shooting I will come home and not be able to grip anything with my right hand, the hand will be swollen, and excruciating pain.

Anyone else out there have hand troubles who use view cameras? What do you do to keep the pain to a minimum?

The doctor said stop using the view cameras. Bugger that.

Dont have the problem, but maybe you should look for butterfly replacement knobs instead of the round things. I bet a lot of your problem is applying pressure with your thumb to loose or lock the knobs, the butterfly should lower the amount of force you apply.

Good luck.
 

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One thing to look into is model automobile tires...small round rubber rings with a grippable surface. These might make it easier to move the knobs without having to grip so tightly. I think Jorge's idea of something with a butterfly-type top would be even better, but might interfere with closing the camera depending on where the knobs are.

Just a few thoughts...

Be well.
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Kodak 2d 5x7, Prinzdorff 4x5, sinar F1, Busch Pressman D. The focusing on the Sinar is fine. It is slide focusing and the fine focusing is a big knob. It is the field and press cameras that murder. It is probably going to come down to me building a camera from scratch which has been on the list for a while but finding the time to do it eludes me. Oh well. It took two years to design and fabricate my self designed thumb brace. I have patience. The butterfly idea might work but they would have to be biger than normal.
 

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Maybe replace them with hex bolts the same size, and carry a small battery powered screw driver with a hex bolt attachment? I know what you mean though, my hands are fine and I struggle with the knobs on my Dorff. I can't do much else because then the camera won't close..
 

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How about using a little wrench to tweak the knobs? That way you would use a simple lever action instead of a finer motricity effort.
 

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Mark,

You didn't mention what camera you are using or what format you are shooting. Perhaps a different camera would help. The Linhof Technikardan is one possibility. It has exactly three knobs. Two small knobs on the left side (your uninjured hand) are loosened/tightened to extend the rail for long lenses. The only other knob, and the only one on the right side, is the focusing knob. The function of this knob is very smooth and doesn't require much force to operate. The focus, and all other movements, are locked using levers. For this reason, I found the TK45S very easy to use in cold weather with gloves on and/or numb fingers. Sounds like it might also be a good match for your needs.

As Jorge mentioned, butterfly or T-Knobs require less force to tighten/loosen than knurled round knobs. Some cameras that use primarily T-Knobs and levers are the Canham and Phillips brands. The Canham DLC (and larger metal models) use a knob for focusing (low force) and for front and rear shifts. All other movements (rear tilt and swing, front rise/fall, tilt and swing) all use either T-Knobs or levers to tighten/loosen.

Another possible option is a camera that uses self-locking geared movements. This assumes that it's the force required to loosen/tighten the controls, and not merely the act of turning a knob that aggravates your condition. The ARCA-SWISS Monolith uses self-locking geared movements for all movements (but it's a heavy camera better suited to studio use). The F-Line Metric models use self-locking greared movements for front and rear shit and rise/fall. You can also add the Micrometric Orbix for self-locking gear driven front tilt. The front and rear focus locks still use knobs. In the standard configuration, these knobs are on the right, but I believe the camera can be re-configured to place the focusing controls and locking knobs on the left side of the rail. Also, the ARCA-SWISS knobs have rubber grips and are easier on the hands than most other bare metal knobs.

If you could get to a dealer or show where multiple cameras are present (Linhof, ARCA-SWISS, Canham) you could try them in person and see which work the best for you. It's hard for others to make specific recommendations as we don't know exactly how much torque/force you can apply before triggering the pain you are experiencing. This is truly a case where try-before-you-buy would be the best course of action if at all possible.

There are probably other cameras that don't rely entirely on knobs, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Kerry
 

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mark said:
I have an old wrist injury that has resulted in chronic tendonitis of my thumb. along with a weakening of the wrist. The small knobs on my 4x5s are murder. The Doctor has told me that it will just get worse over time. After a day of shooting I will come home and not be able to grip anything with my right hand, the hand will be swollen, and excruciating pain.

Anyone else out there have hand troubles who use view cameras? What do you do to keep the pain to a minimum?

The doctor said stop using the view cameras. Bugger that.
Did the Doctor offer any kind of treatment. I had tendonitis that was so severe that I could not raise my arm or grip anything with my right hand. My doctor gave me a series of quartizone shots and the relief was miraculous and almost instantaneous.

If that is not an option then larger knobs or maybe rig something like the fast focus lever you can get for Hasselblad lenses.

But I would hound my doctor for something better than giving up large format cameras.

Best wishes

Mike
 

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Interesting subject Mark...my wife has arthritis in both hands, so I understand your problem very well...sometimes door knobs are a problem for her (that's why we have a lever types in the house now). Some things we have learned to adapt..maybe a wide rubber band over the knobs or just the handy little rubber things (ok don't know what they are called) used to open jars...those work great. Hopefully some of the great minds here will come up with something very usefull and more pratical......hmmmmmm.
 

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Mark I have a simular problem but not nearly as sever as your case. I use a wrist and hand brace, which helps.
If you are handy enough to change out the knobs yourself, you might want to look at the McMaster-carr catalog for an assortment of different knobs and crank handles.
On line at ( www.macmaster-carr.com).
 

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Thanks to Mongo for the great tip. Modifying the camera knobs to a hex-head is a good addition. By combining both, a person could put a hex key into model wheel center and have a big, soft, lightweight wrench. Very helpful information, folks!
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