Kentmere Fineprint FB issues

[digiconvert]

After looking at the threads above I've tried an extended development time, 6 minutes at 22 deg C , the results are a LOT better - still needs work but far closer to what I want. Guess this paper takes a long time to develop the full blacks.

 

[Stan160]

Still happy with the print now it is dry. Forgot to mention in my last message that the contrast was quite different between Kentmere and Fomatone papers. Absolute times are meaningless of course because of the difference in paper speed, but to produce two similar looking prints from the same negative Fomatone MG classic needed 20s G0 + 50s G5, Kentmere Fineprint VC needed 4s G0 + 20s G5. Kentmere needs a lot more G5 to bring out the deep blacks.

Ian

 

[jeroldharter]

Still happy with the print now it is dry. Forgot to mention in my last message that the contrast was quite different between Kentmere and Fomatone papers. Absolute times are meaningless of course because of the difference in paper speed, but to produce two similar looking prints from the same negative Fomatone MG classic needed 20s G0 + 50s G5, Kentmere Fineprint VC needed 4s G0 + 20s G5. Kentmere needs a lot more G5 to bring out the deep blacks.

Ian

Those print times seem unusual, not so much the absolute times but the relative proportions of grade 0 and grade 5. I have the occasional print that is made on almost all grade 5 (magenta) filtration but that would be a very flat negative on an overcast day that I am trying to punch up. With normal circumstances the times are about the same (realizing that the paper is less responsive to magenta light). I think you need to increase the development time of your negative. I use TMAX 100 film developed in TMAX RS developer using BTZS testing methods.

 

[Stan160]

I guess I need to print the same negative on Ilford MGIV and see what contrast is required - I'm not familiar enough with Kentmere or Foma papers to have a good feel for them yet.

The relative G0/G5 times on Fomatone seem like about normal contrast grade (the data sheet indicates a lower speed at the harder grade), it's just odd how hard I've had to print to get a similar image on the Kentmere paper.

Ian

 

[hka]

Still happy with the print now it is dry. Forgot to mention in my last message that the contrast was quite different between Kentmere and Fomatone papers. Absolute times are meaningless of course because of the difference in paper speed, but to produce two similar looking prints from the same negative Fomatone MG classic needed 20s G0 + 50s G5, Kentmere Fineprint VC needed 4s G0 + 20s G5. Kentmere needs a lot more G5 to bring out the deep blacks.

Ian

I agree. I use the same method to get the deep blacks in Kentmere. Mostly after finishing the right proofprint I give it still an extra 3 or 5 seconds @ G5 sometimes only locally. After toning in an D-Max enhencer the blacks are realy nice.