Kentmere 100 & 400 in 120 format

[Melvin J Bramley]

What purpose will these new films serve if there are no medium-format cameras being currently produced? My Mamiya is getting very old and to replace it I see no alternative but another very old Mamiya...

In these parts, BC Canada , Yashica TLR's sell for silly prices , cla'd or not yet Mamiya 645's and Pentax 645's remain unsold at reasonable prices, go figure!

TB

 

[Oldwino]

The FPP store is selling them at an introductory price of $4.99 a roll. Bought a couple of rolls of each emulsion. This is really good news.

Yeah, and then they try to charge $24 to ship 10 rolls. Jeesh.

 

[Craig]

Just had a look at The Camera Store (my local photo store) and Kentmere 400 is $8.50, while HP5 is $9.50. Interestingly FP4 is $11.67. Delta 400 is $12.19. All 120 size and Canadian dollars.

 

[AZD]

I hoped this would be it. Whether or not Kentmere was Ultrafine eXtreme, Ultrafine was definitely Harman, and definitely available in 120, so it seemed like an obvious addition. I’m happy about it. Kentmere film is excellent, especially their 100 speed. I prefer the 100 over FP4, and the 400 over Tri-X, but HP5 still wins the ISO 400 battle for me anyway.

 

[cptrios]

Great news. I've been working through a bulk roll of Kentmere 400, and even though it's not the best, it's totally serviceable. A whole lot better (in my opinion, at least) than the Foma/Arista alternatives, too. I know it's not exactly a new film, but it's an awesome sign for the future that things like this are still happening.

 

[miha]

Time to replace it with a camera that lasts

That would me my Linhof Kardan, with a reducing back in place.

 

[Agulliver]

Having used Kentmere 400 in 135, I'd agree that it doesn't push as well as HP5+ and since recent years have seen me doing a *lot* of shooting in a dim jazz club, the Kentmere wouldn't be my film of choice. That said, I took a roll of Kentmere 400 on my recent trip to Arkansas and it did a great job of photographing forests and making family portraits.

It is an excellent all round film, pushes to 800 nicely and can be used for pretty much anything other than dim jazz clubs or brightly lit funfairs. Harman has better brand visibility than Foma so the Kentmere is likely to be stocked by many more retailers than Foma. And some still fear Foma's quality control. This is likely a winner for Harman and the Kentmere brand. It is appreciably cheaper than FP4+ or HP5+ and for most users, especially those getting into film, it's effectively interchangeable with those.

 

[miha]

Having used Kentmere 400 in 135, I'd agree that it doesn't push as well as HP5+ and since recent years have seen me doing a *lot* of shooting in a dim jazz club, the Kentmere wouldn't be my film of choice. That said, I took a roll of Kentmere 400 on my recent trip to Arkansas and it did a great job of photographing forests and making family portraits.

It is an excellent all round film, pushes to 800 nicely and can be used for pretty much anything other than dim jazz clubs or brightly lit funfairs. Harman has better brand visibility than Foma so the Kentmere is likely to be stocked by many more retailers than Foma. And some still fear Foma's quality control. This is likely a winner for Harman and the Kentmere brand. It is appreciably cheaper than FP4+ or HP5+ and for most users, especially those getting into film, it's effectively interchangeable with those.

Makes sense at first sight. However, the question remains: why did they wait for so long ?

 

[albireo]

Is there any hard evidence that this emulsion had been already available in 120 as Rollei RPX 100/400?

I've been using the Rollei for a long time, truly fantastic film, and if the rumours this is Kentmere are true, I will promptly switch to stocking whichever of the two (Rollei vs Kentmere) is cheaper to me at any given time.

 

[miha]

Yes, many, even by Hartmuth Schroeder.

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

Is there any hard evidence that this emulsion had been already available in 120 as Rollei RPX 100/400?

I've been using the Rollei for a long time, truly fantastic film, and if the rumours this is Kentmere are true, I will promptly switch to stocking whichever of the two (Rollei vs Kentmere) is cheaper to me at any given time.

I don't think this to be the case. At least on the current versión of RPX 400 on 35mm. Different contrast and grain. Also base seems different. Have been using RPX 400 as my staple for 2 years and looks that way to me.

Of course this is just my impression. Would be great if I was wrong since I love RPX 400 on 120

 

[Ernst-Jan]

As far as I know Agfaphoto APX 100/400, Fotoimpex CHM 100/400, Kentmere 100/400 and probably a few more, are all the same, but Rollei RPX 100/400, which is also available as 120, is different, with different development times.

 

[meowdameow]

Good news!

 

[Film-Niko]

As far as I know Agfaphoto APX 100/400, Fotoimpex CHM 100/400, Kentmere 100/400 and probably a few more, are all the same, but Rollei RPX 100/400, which is also available as 120, is different, with different development times.

The official developing times Maco is giving for their films are often not correct. Maco is a distribution company with no technical staff. They don't do proper testing.
The last time I have used RPX 100 / 400 they have been the Kentmeres. That was the stuff in the boxes they used from the introduction of these films.
Currently the RPX films have new cardbord boxes. I don't know whether the content has changed. Maco is well known for the behaviour sometimes changing the material without informing their customers. For example they changed their film in the Ortho 25 boxes, which is now a completely different film of much different film speed. But they didn't inform their customers, the developing times given are still the old ones.......

All this dishonest repackaging business is really a mess......
Best is to stay with the real original film producers. That is always the safe and trustworthy side. In most cases cheaper as well.
Therefore very good that Kentmere 100 and 400 are now also available as rollfilm.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

All this dishonest repackaging business is really a mess......
Best is to stay with the real original film producers. That is always the safe and trustworthy side. In most cases cheaper as well.
Therefore very good that Kentmere 100 and 400 are now also available as rollfilm.

I have run into trouble with Maco products before and now stay well clear.

 

[miha]

The official developing times Maco is giving for their films are often not correct. Maco is a distribution company with no technical staff. They don't do proper testing.
The last time I have used RPX 100 / 400 they have been the Kentmeres. That was the stuff in the boxes they used from the introduction of these films.
Currently the RPX films have new cardbord boxes. I don't know whether the content has changed. Maco is well known for the behaviour sometimes changing the material without informing their customers. For example they changed their film in the Ortho 25 boxes, which is now a completely different film of much different film speed. But they didn't inform their customers, the developing times given are still the old ones.......

All this dishonest repackaging business is really a mess......
Best is to stay with the real original film producers. That is always the safe and trustworthy side. In most cases cheaper as well.
Therefore very good that Kentmere 100 and 400 are now also available as rollfilm.

Yeah but why only now?

 

[pentaxuser]

Makes sense at first sight. However, the question remains: why did they wait for so long ?

miha,my first thought as well

pentaxuser

 

[halfaman]

Makes sense at first sight. However, the question remains: why did they wait for so long ?

Quoting Ilford statement.

Giles Branthwaite, Sales & Marketing Director at HARMAN technology:
"ILFORD will always be our flagship brand and our most comprehensive / broadest range but we want to expand our Kentmere offering to give people a high quality yet 'affordable' entry point to analogue photography. By introducing Kentmere Pan 100 and 400 in 120 format, we are primarily targeting budget conscious photographers who still demand high quality, consistent performance and want to create beautiful images they can print or scan."

"In our recent Global Film Users Survey, 75% of the the 8600+ respondents used 120 format so there are a lot of medium format photographers out there. While all of our ILFORD films are available in this format we wanted to ensure there is choice at different price points. Kentmere Pan 100 and 400 films are not necessarily intended as ‘professional’ films, yet we have seen you can still create exceptional results all professionals would be proud of."

KENTMERE PAN 100 & KENTMERE PAN 400 – NOW AVAILABLE IN 120 FORMAT

Kentmere films now available in 120 format, Our Kentmere 100 and Kentmere 400 films are now available in 120 format

www.ilfordphoto.com

And they are making customer surveys since 2014.

 

[miha]

Quoting Ilford statement.

Giles Branthwaite, Sales & Marketing Director at HARMAN technology:
"ILFORD will always be our flagship brand and our most comprehensive / broadest range but we want to expand our Kentmere offering to give people a high quality yet 'affordable' entry point to analogue photography. By introducing Kentmere Pan 100 and 400 in 120 format, we are primarily targeting budget conscious photographers who still demand high quality, consistent performance and want to create beautiful images they can print or scan."

"In our recent Global Film Users Survey, 75% of the the 8600+ respondents used 120 format so there are a lot of medium format photographers out there. While all of our ILFORD films are available in this format we wanted to ensure there is choice at different price points. Kentmere Pan 100 and 400 films are not necessarily intended as ‘professional’ films, yet we have seen you can still create exceptional results all professionals would be proud of."

KENTMERE PAN 100 & KENTMERE PAN 400 – NOW AVAILABLE IN 120 FORMAT

Kentmere films now available in 120 format, Our Kentmere 100 and Kentmere 400 films are now available in 120 format

www.ilfordphoto.com

And they are making customer surveys since 2014.

I guess these surveys support their decision to finally offer their budget film in 120, however it doesn't answer why these same films are already available under other brands in 120 for years already.

 

[miha]

miha,my first thought as well

pentaxuser

Unless they were somehow obliged not to introduce them in 120 for a certain period or while they were confectioning them in 120 for other entities... just speculating of course.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

The stuff's so new
There ain't no SKU...

Have to wait for my local shop to get back to me...

 

[Sirius Glass]

I have been following all the news about what Kentmere is doing and it has still not made me 30 pounds lighter and 50 years younger. This has to happen soon or Kodachrome will never come back!

 

[cmacd123]

The stuff's so new
There ain't no SKU...

Have to wait for my local shop to get back to me...

well the Canadian distributor has THIS page; https://www.ilfordphoto.ca/product/kentmere-120-roll-pan-400/

and gives their SKU as KM6014826 and I would guess that if you drop the KM, that is Ilfords Cat Number.

they aos show a UPC of UPC: 019498014819

perhaps those will help. they show Estimate Delivery Time is Dec 7, 2022

 

[redbandit]

In these parts, BC Canada , Yashica TLR's sell for silly prices , cla'd or not yet Mamiya 645's and Pentax 645's remain unsold at reasonable prices, go figure!

TB

these cameras you speak of at reasonable prices.. how usable are they? Its one to say a good condition ready to use 645 at a reasonable price versus a damaged one that needs critical repair being sold at a reasonable price.

my mamiya 645 will only last so long, that electronic shutter without a battery can only do 1/60th of a second. Using 400 iso film thats not a critical problem.

 

[juan]

I’ll say RB67 before Sirius Glass says Hasselblad.