Kenko has discontinued the entire line of exposure meters that they make after the Konica Minolta

[mshchem]

Incident meter mode is one of the things I require in a hand held meter. I've never tried one of the new inexpensive clip on meters. Don't really need one.

 

[Paul Howell]

My 40 year old Gossen SBC LED with slide over dome is accurate. My Weston Master VI just died, had the inverse dome for incident metering, what I liked about it was I could work it with one hand, the Gossen is fiddly, getting the LED just in the middle takes a few passes.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I have 40 year old Minolta meters that work perfectly. I've never known one to fail. Minolta meter IV, great flash meter too.

Kenko and others stiffest competition is from the inventory of perfectly functional used meters.

I have a Minolta IIIf and it is very good. The only problem is that you have to switch the head to go from reflective to ambient and vice versa.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

The 5 degree spot meter attachment for the Minolta Autometer or flashmeter IV is not interchangeable with the 10 degree spot meter attachment for the III.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

That is too bad. However, it seems more film users these days want a small, compact meter that clips on the camera, rather than a bulky hand-held meter.

What if you use a tripod?

 

[Chan Tran]

I have a Minolta IIIf and it is very good. The only problem is that you have to switch the head to go from reflective to ambient and vice versa.

Yes and you have to carry the case to carry the attachment to switch between reflective and incident. So when I used the Flashmeter III or Autometer II I never have the refective attachment when I go out. If I need reflective I use the Flashmeter VI.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Yes and you have to carry the case to carry the attachment to switch between reflective and incident. So when I used the Flashmeter III or Autometer II I never have the refective attachment when I go out. If I need reflective I use the Flashmeter VI.

If you have the VI, why would you ever carry anything else?

 

[benjiboy]

If you have the VI, why would you ever carry anything else?

I have a Kenko KFM 2100 (Minolta Autometer V1 clone) and have the 50 degree reflected light aattachment and the flat diffuser attachments, Alan, and there is nowhere in the case that came with the meter that I bought new to put them, I carry them on a small Lowepro pouch that I keep permanently on my pants belt because I would hate to loose them. After all, firstly, for such small pieces of plastic, they were ridiculously expensive, and since Kenko has stopped making them, they will no longer be available.

 

[Chan Tran]

I have a Kenko KFM 2100 (Minolta Autometer V1 clone) and have the 50 degree reflected light aattachment and the flat diffuser attachments, Alan, and there is nowhere in the case that came with the meter that I bought new to put them, I carry them on a small Lowepro pouch that I keep permanently on my pants belt because I would hate to loose them. After all, firstly, for such small pieces of plastic, they were ridiculously expensive, and since Kenko has stopped making them, they will no longer be available.

The Kenko KFM-2100 is the Flashmeter VI clone and not Autometer VI. Minolta never made the Autometer VI.

 

[benjiboy]

The Kenko KFM-2100 is the Flashmeter VI clone and not Autometer VI. Minolta never made the Autometer VI.

I stand corrected Chan, I never owned a Minolta light meter. but after some research I discovered that as far as the original question is concerned the case for the Minolta Auto Meter V1 is identical to mine the Kenko KFM 2100 and has nowhere to put accessories.

 

[Chan Tran]

My Minolta Flashmeter VI came with a case which has a pocket on the cover flap that I can put the flat diffuser and reflective adapter. I have the reflective adapter but the meter is not supposed to be be used with the reflective adapter. It would read 3EV too low.

 

[wiltw]

My Minolta Flashmeter VI came with a case which has a pocket on the cover flap that I can put the flat diffuser and reflective adapter. I have the reflective adapter but the meter is not supposed to be be used with the reflective adapter. It would read 3EV too low.

As I posted before, you have the reflected light adapter intended for use with the earlier version of the Flashmeter...if you used the right reflected light attachment, a pin would be depressed so that the unit would correctly read +3EV brighter light reading.
My Autometer V behaves that way too, and I can manually depress the pin and the reading offsets by +3EV...if I felt adequately motivated I might spend some time cobbling up a modification, but I learned a long time ago I could not come up with a reason to bother.

 

[Chan Tran]

As I posted before, you have the reflected light adapter intended for use with the earlier version of the Flashmeter...if you used the right reflected light attachment, a pin would be depressed so that the unit would correctly read +3EV brighter light reading.
My Autometer V behaves that way too, and I can manually depress the pin and the reading offsets by +3EV...if I felt adequately motivated I might spend some time cobbling up a modification, but I learned a long time ago I could not come up with a reason to bother.

I don't know about the Kenko KFM-2100 (or the newer 2200 for that matter) but the Minolta Flashmeter VI is not to be used with any reflective adapter. It has no pin or switch to compensate for the 3EV. You are supposed to use only the built in 1 degree spot meter which is actually a seperate metering circuit if you want reflective light measurement.

 

[wiltw]

I don't know about the Kenko KFM-2100 (or the newer 2200 for that matter) but the Minolta Flashmeter VI is not to be used with any reflective adapter. It has no pin or switch to compensate for the 3EV. You are supposed to use only the built in 1 degree spot meter which is actually a seperate metering circuit if you want reflective light measurement.

I guess that Minolta came to the same conclusion I did...a reflected adapter makes no sense to use unless it is reading a narrow angle of view (incident reading is not subject to what Kodak termed 'subject brightness failure'), so it did not engineer one for the Flashmeter VI.
The Kenko KFM-2100 is nothing but a rebadged Autometer Vf.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I have a Kenko KFM 2100 (Minolta Autometer V1 clone) and have the 50 degree reflected light aattachment and the flat diffuser attachments, Alan, and there is nowhere in the case that came with the meter that I bought new to put them, I carry them on a small Lowepro pouch that I keep permanently on my pants belt because I would hate to loose them. After all, firstly, for such small pieces of plastic, they were ridiculously expensive, and since Kenko has stopped making them, they will no longer be available.

I:m confused. Your first post said Minolta VI, your second post indicates a V1. If you had the VI I assume that would be better than your other Minoltas. The V1 appears inferior.

 

[Chan Tran]

As you can see my Minolta Flashmeter VI looks like the Kenko KFM-2100. Minolta never made an Autometer VI nor Autometer VIf. It has a pocket in the flap which I could store the flash diffuser and the reflective attachment there. However, the meter is not designed to use the reflective attachment.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

This is the end of a great family of meters.

sad story but Sekonic are s good alternative!

 

[mshchem]

sad story but Sekonic are s good alternative!

 

[Chan Tran]

sad story but Sekonic are s good alternative!

Look like Gossen is not making a lot of meters these days. I mean exposure meter as they still make many other kinds of meters. Konica Minolta still make high end light meters but not exposure meters. I try to get some of those if I can. Very expensive though.

 

[wiltw]

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As you can see my Minolta Flashmeter VI looks like the Kenko KFM-2100. Minolta never made an Autometer VI nor Autometer VIf. It has a pocket in the flap which I could store the flash diffuser and the reflective attachment there. However, the meter is not designed to use the reflective attachment.

Oops, I got my Kenko model numbers mixed up! The Minolta Autometer Vf was rebadged to the Kenko KFM-1100, not (mistakenly by me) the 2100 (was Minolta Flashmeter VI). Had to do a bit of searching to clear that up, with the demise of the Kenko lineup.
The Autometer Vf had different (larger diameter to depress the different position of the pin) reflected adapter than the Autometer IVf.