Kaspersky Anti virus on iMac?

[Alan Edward Klein]

If I go with another software, should I load it first and do I remove the Kaspersky or will it?

 

[cramej]

If I go with another software, should I load it first and do I remove the Kaspersky or will it?

You would need to remove Kaspersky first.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If I go with another software, should I load it first and do I remove the Kaspersky or will it?

Delete Kapersky by hand and check all the usual places to be sure you got it out completely. That is what I did.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I just noticed that Bitdefender is headquatered in Bucharest Romania. Next to Russia. Are Russians running it. Seems like I;ll be jumping out of the pan into the fire switching to it.

How's Norton?

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

I just noticed that Bitdefender is headquatered in Bucharest Romania. Next to Russia. Are Russians running it. Seems like I;ll be jumping out of the pan into the fire switching to it.

How's Norton?

Norton is probably your best bet. While Romania is an FSU/Warsaw Pact nation, there's no love lost between them and Russia, but there is plenty of organized (and not so organized) crime there, so I would view any software from Romania with a healthy dose of skepticism.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I was looking at Bit Defender. They have different programs. What's the difference between anti-virus and internet programs. See link
- Anti-Virus Plus
- Internet Security
- Total Security

https://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/

 

[radiant]

What about F-Secure? https://company.f-secure.com/en - for me that is only I would trust. Headquarters in Finland. Companys leaders are Finnish.

 

[grat]

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Facts:

• Hackers don't care who or where you are. Some get paid for installing software on your computer, others are building bot-nets, others are seeking data. Others, you're just collateral damage.
• Compromised web-sites are probably the primary source of infection these days. Most software is pretty good at filtering attachments, and home routers with NAT insulate against direct attacks
  • A website doesn't have to be sketchy to be compromised. Forum software is a frequent target.
  • Most web browsers are pretty good at filtering these attacks. But they're also almost all Chrome based now, so successful attacks are really successful
• Native tools such as Windows Defender and Windows Firewall are pretty solid these days.
• Linux and Mac have significantly reduced target surface area-- fewer unnecessary services, fewer over-privileged processes, and a natural resistance to traditional viruses due to the way they're designed.
  • And yet, there have been three "critical" security updates in the past month on Linux.
  • Two required an existing account, the third was remote-exploitable

Opinions:

• AV software on Windows is a bit like homeowner's insurance-- You don't usually need it, but when you do, you really need it.
  
• Norton and McAfee have a long history of poor coding practices. As a result the software tends to be invasive, resource hungry, and unreliable
• Kapersky is better (slightly), but I trust nothing HQ'd in Russia right now.
• The site AV Comparatives and it's quarterly AV testing is a good place to do research.
• I personally run eSET AV, who's false-positive rate is low, but their compromised rate has gone up alarmingly in recent years-- good thing I don't surf with Windows often.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Facts:

• Hackers don't care who or where you are. Some get paid for installing software on your computer, others are building bot-nets, others are seeking data. Others, you're just collateral damage.
• Compromised web-sites are probably the primary source of infection these days. Most software is pretty good at filtering attachments, and home routers with NAT insulate against direct attacks
  • A website doesn't have to be sketchy to be compromised. Forum software is a frequent target.
  • Most web browsers are pretty good at filtering these attacks. But they're also almost all Chrome based now, so successful attacks are really successful
• Native tools such as Windows Defender and Windows Firewall are pretty solid these days.
• Linux and Mac have significantly reduced target surface area-- fewer unnecessary services, fewer over-privileged processes, and a natural resistance to traditional viruses due to the way they're designed.
  • And yet, there have been three "critical" security updates in the past month on Linux.
  • Two required an existing account, the third was remote-exploitable

Opinions:

• AV software on Windows is a bit like homeowner's insurance-- You don't usually need it, but when you do, you really need it.
  
• Norton and McAfee have a long history of poor coding practices. As a result the software tends to be invasive, resource hungry, and unreliable
• Kapersky is better (slightly), but I trust nothing HQ'd in Russia right now.
• The site AV Comparatives and it's quarterly AV testing is a good place to do research.
• I personally run eSET AV, who's false-positive rate is low, but their compromised rate has gone up alarmingly in recent years-- good thing I don't surf with Windows often.

I just checked. eSET AV is a Slovakian firm next to Russia as Bit Defender is a Romanian firm also next to Russia. Are Russians not involved in these two companies? Can anyone assure me they're more reliable than Kaspersky a Russian firm headquartered in Moscow? On the other hand, Kaspersky moved their servers to Switzerland to prove their isolation from Russian authorities? Moving my service away from Kaspersky might be a little bit of jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

 

[BrianShaw]

https://www.safetydetectives.com/blog/windows-defender-vs-antiviruses-is-defender-enough-for-you/

 

[jtk]

I just checked. eSET AV is a Slovakian firm next to Russia as Bit Defender is a Romanian firm also next to Russia. Are Russians not involved in these two companies? Can anyone assure me they're more reliable than Kaspersky a Russian firm headquartered in Moscow? On the other hand, Kaspersky moved their servers to Switzerland to prove their isolation from Russian authorities? Moving my service away from Kaspersky might be a little bit of jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

Staying with Kaspersky suggests you didn't know about Kaspersky's issues a year ago.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Staying with Kaspersky suggests you didn't know about Kaspersky's issues a year ago.

+1

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

What issues did Kaspersky have a year ago?

 

[shutterfinger]

If I go with another software, should I load it first and do I remove the Kaspersky or will it?

Yes. Download/install/run https://www.iobit.com/en/advanceduninstaller.php The standard Add/Remove Programs in Windows leaves a lot of files and folders behind, some are buried and hard to find.
To manually uninstall run Windows Add/Remove Programs then open Windows Explorer and do a search of This PC for the deleted/removed program. When this finishes select and delete all results. Some of the results will require you to reboot into Safe Mode, rerun the scan then delete the results and some results may not be removable.

I was looking at Bit Defender. They have different programs. What's the difference between anti-virus and internet programs. See link

I'm running Internet Security and am satisfied with it.

I just noticed that Bitdefender is headquatered in Bucharest Romania.

I based my choise of Bitdefender on reviews from multiple sources via a google search for antivirus or internet security close to a year ago. current results in addition to the post 60 link:
https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-security-suites
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-internet-security-suites
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-internet-security-suites
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-antivirus/
One does not need to be tech savvy to decide which is best for you reading the reviews from codependent sources.

 

[cramej]

Staying with Kaspersky suggests you didn't know about Kaspersky's issues a year ago.

Plus that one time they blocked port 80 with an update.

 

[grat]

I just checked. eSET AV is a Slovakian firm next to Russia as Bit Defender is a Romanian firm also next to Russia.

Slovakia is on the other side of Ukraine from Russia, and borders Ukraine, Poland, Austria, the Czech Republic, and Hungary. They're also a multi-national company with offices all over the place: San Diego, United States; Montreal, Canada; Buenos Aires, Argentina; São Paulo, Brazil; Prague, Czech Republic; Kraków, Poland; Singapore; Japan and Australia.

I've been running the software since the early days of Windows Vista, when I swore it would be a dark, cold day in the afterlife before I ran McAfee as an AV package again.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If you do not have enough problems in life, I can recommend that you install Karpersky software on your computer. Do not try this on your work computer at home or at work.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Slovakia is on the other side of Ukraine from Russia, and borders Ukraine, Poland, Austria, the Czech Republic, and Hungary. They're also a multi-national company with offices all over the place: San Diego, United States; Montreal, Canada; Buenos Aires, Argentina; São Paulo, Brazil; Prague, Czech Republic; Kraków, Poland; Singapore; Japan and Australia.

I've been running the software since the early days of Windows Vista, when I swore it would be a dark, cold day in the afterlife before I ran McAfee as an AV package again.

Well, you can see Russia from Slovakia.

 

[Down Under]

I use the basic, free version of Avast Antivirus. Have always considered Norton itself to be a virus...all the junk marketing it does qualifies as virus..


...and, by the way, your needs for antivirus software relate directly to your browsing activity.

During ten years as a headhunter I found and interviewed hundreds of possible candidates and I researched the companies for which they worked....as well as the regional and national markets in which those companies operated. I never, ever, accepted resumes from people I had not researched in advance, before contacting them. Nobody benefits by submitting resumes directly...real headhunters don't accept unsolicited emails. Free antivirus software (such as Avast) caught and blocked or eliminated hundreds of virus infections every week.

Yo,, an intelligent comment - but I auto-expect that from jtk anyway.

Kaspersky, yuk. Popular legend has it that it was created by a Russian who sits in Putin's cabinet, but I cannot vouch for this, as Google refuses to bring up any confirmation, and as we know Google never lies to us.

Okay, let's be serious now. In 40+ years of computering, no problems whatsoever. Since 2012 I'm running a MacBook Air, my partner has Windows 10 and runs Avast. To repeat myself, no problems whatsoever. Recently stepson came visiting from overseas, played with partner's computer, bingo!! Several hacks, one of which imregnated the system and stuffed it up big time. Investigation turned up stepson had logged into a Japanese site with ladies' lingerie - note I draw no moral conclusions here, just stating a fact. In the end, after much to'ing and fro'ing with various helpful but useless so-called experts, we took the laptop to a reputable shop and had it reloaded. Fortunately a download had saved copies of all relevant files on this computer before stepson visited and indulged in his, well, whatever. Maybe he wears the items. Who knows?? I did not check.

Alan, on "moral and technical grounds" should you also give up vodka, caviar and blinis, if you indulge in the first two (and can afford to, which I cannot). Russian films - the name 'Smegma' comes to mind, not such a problem as nobody uses film much now and anybody using Russian film qualifies formembership in a masochist club. I mean, we all have to be grown-ups about this, but a little common sense goes. along way. Avoid intrusive antivirus protection, bad vodka and suspect Japanese lingerie web sites and suddenly life is more simple and easy - and as a disclaimer, no, I did NOT check that web site.

In all, an amusing thread, with a bit of useful information. Much appreciated. A little humour helps.

 

[Down Under]

Yo,, an intelligent comment - but I auto-expect that from jtk anyway.

Kaspersky, yuk. Popular legend has it that it was created by a Russian who sits in Putin's cabinet, but I cannot vouch for this, as Google refuses to bring up any confirmation, and as we know Google never lies to us.

Okay, let's be serious now. In 40+ years of computering, no problems whatsoever. Since 2012 I'm running a MacBook Air, my partner has Windows 10 and runs Avast. To repeat myself, no problems whatsoever. Recently stepson came visiting from overseas, played with partner's computer, bingo!! Several hacks, one of which imregnated the system and stuffed it up big time. Investigation turned up stepson had logged into a Japanese site with ladies' lingerie - note I draw no moral conclusions here, just stating a fact. In the end, after much to'ing and fro'ing with various helpful but useless so-called experts, we took the laptop to a reputable shop and had it reloaded. Fortunately a download had saved copies of all relevant files on this computer before stepson visited and indulged in his, well, whatever. Maybe he wears the items. Who knows?? I did not check.

Alan, on "moral and technical grounds" should you also give up vodka, caviar and blinis, if you indulge in the first two (and can afford to, which I cannot). Russian films - the name 'Smegma' comes to mind, not such a problem as nobody uses film much now and anybody using Russian film qualifies formembership in a masochist club. I mean, we all have to be grown-ups about this, but a little common sense goes. along way. Avoid intrusive antivirus protection, bad vodka and suspect Japanese lingerie web sites and suddenly life is more simple and easy - and as a disclaimer, no, I did NOT check that web site.

In all, an amusing thread, with a bit of useful information. Much appreciated. A little humour helps.

Well, you can see Russia from Slovakia.

And as we all know, you can invade almost anywhere from Russia.

One would think Putin would have remembered the lessons of Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but no, history repeats itself.

 

[Down Under]

And as we all know, you can invade almost anywhere from Russia.

One would think Putin would have remembered the lessons of Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but no, history repeats itself.

(Added later) Gosh, now I end up quoting and replying to myself. This must be a first!!

No champagne please - donations to a local animal shelter most appreciated.

(I will now disappear - for a while.)

 

[radiant]

you can invade

*cough* You can TRY to invade.

 

[shutterfinger]

One would think Putin would have remembered the lessons of Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but no, history repeats itself.

Nah, he figure he found a way past those failures and needs to try again.

 

[cramej]

. Russian films - the name 'Smegma' comes to mind, ...

How about Svema? Don't google the above if you're at work...

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Okay, looks like the software discussion has drifted off into political territory. An interesting topic for another forum.