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mshchem

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Microsoft invested 200 million dollars in Apple. That kept them alive. Who in their right mind is going to invest ANY money in Kodak?
Alaris buys EK. Then Alaris and Ilford form a joint venture to produce a instant camera, color reversal films (not K-14) return to the consumer market with branded items, central processing labs. Postcards etc.
It won't happen because EK is run by nitwits.
 

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Is that Herr Daimler preparing to shoot New Ektachrome?
 

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Microsoft invested 200 million dollars in Apple. That kept them alive. Who in their right mind is going to invest ANY money in Kodak?

Oh, my... Microsoft “invested” $150M in Apple because of the lawsuit that Apple then dropped. They also committed to developing Office for Mac for the next five years (because Office for Mac sucked att he time, although they never stopped after that). For the record, Apple still had over 2 billion in cash at the time. That money from Microsoft didn’t save Apple. What saved the company was the new management and focus on a small line of very good products.

Yes, Kodak could pull it without $150M from anyone, as long as they focused on a small line of very good products that would sell well.
 

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Because that's what the Kodachromanistas do. They beat the issue to death. It's all that they can do since they know they will NEVER see Kodachrome return.

Frankly, Rather than resurrecting Kodachrome, I would like to see some progress on complete human body replacement. I am getting tired of the piece part repair and replacement, I could would like to replace my body in one procedure with one recovery and one rehabilitation.
 

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Frankly, Rather than resurrecting Kodachrome, I would like to see some progress on complete human body replacement. I am getting tired of the piece part repair and replacement, I could would like to replace my body in one procedure with one recovery and one rehabilitation.

I don't think Kodak could do that.:D
 

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Frankly, Rather than resurrecting Kodachrome, I would like to see some progress on complete human body replacement. I am getting tired of the piece part repair and replacement, I could would like to replace my body in one procedure with one recovery and one rehabilitation.

I don't think Kodak could do that.:D

More likely that Kodak would do that than bring back Kodachrome.
 

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Kodak once had an excellent health sciences division which did some excellent work and produced some fine products. This was eventually sold to J&J and is still going fine situated in the old Kodak Park West.

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Kodak once had an excellent health sciences division which did some excellent work and produced some fine products. This was eventually sold to J&J and is still going fine situated in the old Kodak Park West.

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Unfortunately that seems to be a pattern with Kodak in the past. They developed some cutting edge things and then failed to develop the market for them and/or spun them off to others. Digital is another great example, Kodak was a pioneer, they should be at the forefront of producing digital cameras.

Mind you, Sears had the edge on mail order/ecommerce with their catalogue, they should have been Amazon; instead they went bankrupt and disappeared in Canada.
 

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Unfortunately that seems to be a pattern with Kodak in the past. They developed some cutting edge things and then failed to develop the market for them and/or spun them off to others. Digital is another great example, Kodak was a pioneer, they should be at the forefront of producing digital cameras.

Mind you, Sears had the edge on mail order/ecommerce with their catalogue, they should have been Amazon; instead they went bankrupt and disappeared in Canada.

And Park Xerox gave Steve Jobs the operating system. JPL gave Ashton Tate JPLDIS which was ported to become dBase II. There is a long history of companies giving away their future because they did not know the value of it.
 

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Unfortunately that seems to be a pattern with Kodak in the past. They developed some cutting edge things and then failed to develop the market for them and/or spun them off to others. Digital is another great example, Kodak was a pioneer, they should be at the forefront of producing digital cameras.

Mind you, Sears had the edge on mail order/ecommerce with their catalogue, they should have been Amazon; instead they went bankrupt and disappeared in Canada.
It makes me wonder, when did Kodak - properly Eastman-Kodak - go wrong? They led the photographic world for decades. I used to love their products; no not every one but the professional line was superb. Films, chemistry, literature, it was all there.
 

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It makes me wonder, when did Kodak - properly Eastman-Kodak - go wrong? They led the photographic world for decades. I used to love their products; no not every one but the professional line was superb. Films, chemistry, literature, it was all there.

Maybe not. If Kodak went to take over Fuji, they might get in trouble with the government like they did in the early 20th century.
 

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And Park Xerox gave Steve Jobs the operating system. JPL gave Ashton Tate JPLDIS which was ported to become dBase II. There is a long history of companies giving away their future because they did not know the value of it.

Kodak selling its OLED technology to LG, they could have made a future for the company with this stuff.
 

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I was there for these events at EK, and a friend was at Xerox when the material for the mouse and graphic interface were handed over to the competition.

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Where did it go wrong for Kodak?

From my position as a consumer (industry experts may well know better), it strikes me that like some other photographic companies....they simply were not able to maintain their presence once the market shifted over to digital. Kodak may have invented the digital camera and then produced some truly decent professional sensors but nobody seemed to want to buy them. Then in the early 2000s they were making competitive consumer digital cameras which performed decently but they never gained much market presence. The whole Kodak printer thing didn't really work either. That's where it went wrong....film and traditional photography revenues dried up, including those for Hollywood movies....and somehow Kodak ballsed up their entrance into the digital world.

It wasn't because the Kodak digital cameras were sub par, they definitely were good. I had two at work at one point. Somehow Kodak, Minolta and others got it wrong....while Sony and Samsung got it right.

None of this really relates to Kodachrome....which wouldn't be viable even if Kodak were kings of digital photography.
 

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Don't let this distract you from the truth; back in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon.
 

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What I do is to bear in mind that the viability of Kodachrome has little or nothing to do with what Kodachrome means to me....and everything to do with what Kodachrome and Kodak in general means to the other 6 billion hunks of meat on this planet. And the answer is....not much. And it's horribly complex to process.
 

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Please smother this thread...
Hey, it's become sort of a fun thread! It's like watching some sort of horrible mutated crippled drooling gasping monster shambling along, you never know where it will go or what it will do, you can post whatever inane idiotic drivel you like, because said drivel fades to invisibility in the glare of other drivel already posted, and now I have to get ready for lunch with Santa, the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy, Elvis, and some scaly green guys.
 
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