yup
i never understand how anyone could ask a company that is already struggling
to begin manufacturing something that would be prohibitively expensive to make,
..... they are drinking
too much tainted with lead &c municipal tap water.....
The OP approves. The "news" of the original post has been successfully delivered to the ones who already knew it, and the ones who refuse to believe it.Would some moderator please close this thread?
Please?
APUG's got its own version of Godwin's law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Kodachrome approaches 1"Would some moderator please close this thread?
Please?
Wasn't there also a guy on this forum that recently developed Kodachrome himself? I beleive he lives in the U.S.A.There is a guy here on APUG who was trying to replicate Kodachrome from his home in Australia, and he posted pictures here in the making and coating forum.
PE
tell that to anyone who has had to use "M" filters in their enlarger to make a print.Yes, but we all know that magenta is not a color.
I'll trade you, some mushrooms I grow under my bed for some of those crackers.i read yesterday in an underground e-zine i subscribe to ( with a duummy email address of course ) that there
is someone on the southern tip of argentina who has a subterranian coating facility and he has prototype
kodachrome film. in the deep cavern that he uses for his laboratory he also has devised a way to process his kodachrome
( he calls it kodachrome because he backwards engineered it from old rolls of kodachrome that he saved and by reading
technical articles and patent reports even thorugh it might not be the true kodak product ) using a 3 step developer instead of
the multi steps from the original process. he has coated and processed and projected small rolls and large sheets.and the author
says in a few months it will be released sporadically. the author of the article described how he equated his tour of the facility to
the history channel "search for the holy lance" where the shw's narrators were blindfolded and brought to a secret location in
at a fortress/monestary in the midle of a north african desert .. the owner of the photographic facility transfered information via
a series of carrier pigeons and later the author was blindfolded and travelled by way of boat and donkey cart to the secret facility.
the place runs off of countless petrol powered generators and the cave is not well ventilated. the own of the nouveau kodachrome
film plant allowed for digital snapshots to be taken of some of the slides for the e-publication ... which were published with the small write up...
turns out with a massive dose of exaust fumes, cases of argentinian wine, fermented sheeps milk cheese on ergot infested rye crackers regular old
black and white film can look like kodachrome. i'd forward the article on the website, but they shift ip addresses every publication.
Yes, but we all know that magenta is not a color.
tell that to anyone who has had to use "M" filters in their enlarger to make a print.
i never understand how anyone could ask a company that is already struggling to begin manufacturing something that would be prohibitively expensive to make, to re-manufacturer the machines to process (the film), when there wasn't enough market share to continue making it when it was last being made.
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I kind of doubt if they would care enough to be a good market, unfortunately.For some reason APUG/Photrio activity drops by two magnitudes over the weekend. Doesn't make sense to me...unless during the weekday people use this site to escape from work.
Anyway, on a Friday evening this is the only active thread. So...
Let's forget about Kodak doing it - that would be financial ruin. The Chinese could do it and do it profitably. Besides, there are hundreds of millions of Chinese people who've never seen or used Kodachrome. That's the new market.
Discuss...
For some reason APUG/Photrio activity drops by two magnitudes over the weekend. Doesn't make sense to me...unless during the weekday people use this site to escape from work.
Anyway, on a Friday evening this is the only active thread. So...
Let's forget about Kodak doing it - that would be financial ruin. The Chinese could do it and do it profitably. Besides, there are hundreds of millions of Chinese people who've never seen or used Kodachrome. That's the new market.
Discuss...
Let's make a short market analysis :The processing machines should be easy enough, if one can get the process timings and specifications for turbulation, filtration and replenishment. The process chemicals shouldn't be that hard, but a little harder than the machines (I'm guessing here). The film itself is the major hurdle. A hurdle that doesn't seem to be economically viable and we all know businesses base their decisions on that. So, like cmacd123 said:
But from calculated pricing this film must be over 50 bucks then.
From my point no problem - some would give such money just to have "new" Kodachrome. But there is also the impossibility at the same time.
A 60 bucks film can't have sales of 5% of all todays E6 sellings. I would suppose it is a hard spekulation if just 1 of 100 bought E6 films would go to K14.
But then we are talking about a (min.)
300 buck film.....
So if a group of people will guarantee Kodak a yearly demand of min. 200.000 films (at around USD 35,- including developement) Kodak would seriously began with calculation of possible cost of investment. [ may be the result is negative and Kodak would come to 500.000 135-36 film equivalent/year to a min. of 5 years constant demand.]
That is meant from Kodak's interview beginning 2017 as they have thoughts in every direction.
Depending from demand everything seams to be possible.
with regards
Wasn't there also a guy on this forum that recently developed Kodachrome himself? I beleive he lives in the U.S.A.
I have read about him. I did some googeling and I found the one I was talking about. Kelly-Shane Fuller from Piratology Studios. Or is he the same guy?He was also from Australia. That was Steven Frizza.
PE
maybe? but there would be a giant tarrf so the film wold cost 100$/roll
That's because Plus-X wasn't such a great film.Chinese Kodachrome... they are making this 1960s Plus-X under the name of "Shanghai" and I'm not seeing any flocks of apuggers running to buy all of it!
+1 And hopefully soon Ektachrome and Ferraniachrome will enter the fray. It still may be possible to "save" E6. Fuji makes some great slide films; I hope people recognize them as such and buy them, lest they be discontinued. It is hard to imagine a color process being reintroduced after it has "died".Sometimes lost in this mess is,.... WE HAVE, lovely slide films, in the current Fujifilm offerings. This is what should be saved! Volume is the key. If people keep buying the film, Fuji will keep making it.
Lantau then you should be prepared soon. Began to train your volonteers in paratrooping, manage wheather forecast,I don't have to get over it. I've never been into it. When Fuji will discontinue Velvia, however... I guess I'll have to call for volunteers to form an invasion force, take Japan and seize the Fuji plant!
The relaunch of Tmax3200 was no big deal for Kodak.It was well known from production parameters and formulation.To add one perspective on the return of P3200.... I, for one, am very excited about TMax 3200; Kodak films intensify beautifully. With VMI and I can rate the film up to 51,200 and reclaim the negative in the intensifier with great tonality. Ilford Delta 3200, on the other hand, just does not seem to respond to intensifiers... I've tried with chromium, silver and VMI and it barely makes a difference.
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