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doughowk said:
>some editing< Many who admire Adams think they need to go to the same places in order to emulate his work; but you wind up producing tourist snapshots. Photograph where you live & you're liable to create far more insightful work. And, as Weston said, there is more thrill in finding beauty in the mundane.
I don’t know, last weekend I submitted four photographs in a local juried art show. Two were the “tourist-type post-card” iconic (for Annapolis), and two others were still life / abstracts (not really). The judge kept the first two and rejected the others. The Mate (a watercolorist) suggested just the opposite.

As to where I would prefer to photograph, given no expense or time restrictions, night scenes in towns and city. I realize this can be done quite cheaply in my area, but I am not into self-defense and traveling alone in the spots I desire to photograph are very scary, especially at night. With funds I could afford a body guard :smile:
 

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doughowk said:
Your best photography is often of the area you know. Photograph where you live & you're liable to create far more insightful work. And, as Weston said, there is more thrill in finding beauty in the mundane.

Photographing what is around day-to-day is the most difficult for me. What we see every day, we no longer "see", in that the neurons that fire and tell the inner being, "That's it!! Photograph This!!", are desensitized. I can travel to Europe, and burn through 20 - 30 rolls of film ... *no* problem. Here in Ipswich, Massachusetts, it is, "Uh .. I can't see anything.." By the same token, a visitor from Europe will burn through 20 - 30 rolls here in Ipswich..

The same phenomenon exists in asking directions from residents. Usually they are supremely inaccurate - not that those asked WANT to lead anyone astray, but the have ceased to "see", that is, pay conscious attention to their surroundings.
My internal instructions - the ones I would use for myself in walking to the Pot Office - are, "Go out. Walk downtown to the Post Office." Directions to a visitor require a great deal more detail, and thought - conscious thought - that we do not normally do; "Walk out of the front door and turn left. At the end of the street, turn left. Walk to High Street, and turn left. You probably should cross the street and walk on the right side where there is a sidewalk..."

That takes discipline, the same sort of discipline required to work, photographically, with familiar objects and surroundings.

I volunteer at the local Visitor's Center. I've got to pay more attention to what seems to attract the attention of the visitors. Possibly, impersonating a Tourist - faking - uh .. "momentarily borrowing" their vision - can be an effective way to break out of an "Artistic Block".
 

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This was addressed on a television show awhile back (I believe that it was 60 Minutes) A college professor back east conducts a course in "seeing". It was quite interesting. One of the examples that was brought out was the "arrow" on the side of the FedEx truck...until that show I had never seen it before. I see it today though.

I think that what others have said about seeing the everyday in new ways is what takes our photography away from snapshots or postcard type images. That is what Brett and Edward Weston were able to do. That is what Michael and Paula are doing in their work. That is what Jim Shanesy is doing. That is what I am working at myself.
 

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Bratislava. SUR and Rendez. My City and my country. But if I would have really a lot of money, I will go for yerar or three to Paris. I love this City, but it is the most expensive place in the Universe... And week or two is nothing... And with a bit more money I would go near to Jupiter and Saturn and their moons. That's another landscape :smile:
 

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Ah...I guess I am lucky. Like many of you, when I lived in the US I wanted to go to all "the" places, valley of the gods, Canyon de Chelley, antelope canyon, etc, etc. My work required a lot of travel and I was lucky to get to all those places, yet in all of them I took very few pictures. Why?........well, I felt that while it is hard to take a bad picture in these places, they have all been done before, and done very well. I could probably take as good a pic as Bruce Barbaum or any of those people, but certainly not better.

Then I moved to Mexico and I start looking at the local photo magazines, the articles etc, and it dawned on me that landscape photography in Mexico is practically non existent. Two reasons for this, one, LF photography is difficult in Mexico, it is hard to get 4x5 film and 8x10 is non existent, let alone things like 12x20. Chemistry and supplies, well if you like D76 or HC110 you are good to go, but dont even think of Xtol or Tmx RS, etc. You ask for these things and people look at you like deer caught in head lights.

Second, seems to me most photographers here want to emulate Manuel Alvarez Bravo. There is a lot of photojournalism and street photography here but I have yet to see a well made landscape photograph.

The strange thing is that Mexico, because of its topography is a beautiful country for landscape and for photographing "things". For example I have two current projects going, one is photographing road side shrines. These are little shrines built in memory of people who died in accidents on the road, some of them can be very beautiful and unusual. The other is photographing abandoned haciendas from the Mexican revolution. This "hacendados" as the owners were called would stand on their balcony and tell people, everything you see, as far as you can see is mine. Now in these haciendas generations lived and died working for the owners. The haciendas were in most part self sufficient and were for all practical purposes small communities. They grew their own produce, cattle and grains for personal consumption as well as for sale, etc. When the Mexican revolution came to pass, as is the case in many of these things, the perceived unfairness of the situation caused these haciendas to be ransacked. The revolutionaries would go into the "Casco" as the main building was known and either kill or force the owners to leave, proceeding to destroy all that was inside. The people who lived and worked in these haciendas, not knowing what to do would either join the revolution, leave for other states, or stay and continue working the fields without any direction.
Fast forward to the present and many small towns have grown around these abandoned haciendas, the old buildings are still present but they are either in disrepair and inhabitable, or they have been taken over as churches and convents. Either way, the buildings are wonderful opportunities for photography.

Of course if the rock and trees is your thing, then there are a myriad of waterfalls, rivers, caves etc, known only to the local people which they are perfectly wiling to show you and guide you and even carry your stuff for a few dollars.

So as I said, I fell lucky that within a couple of hours drive from my hometown I can find a surprise. I actually feel like a kid on a treasure hunt every time I go out.
 
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