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I just got Jobo 1520 and 1530 tanks but they don't have instructions with them (and I couldn't find any on-line). The tanks list the volumes of liquid for various types of development. If I want to use the rotation method to save on developer, how often do I need to be turning the tank since the film won't be fully immersed? Also, it seems odd to me that it tells me I can fit more rolls of 120 than 35mm.

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Hi Dan,

If you are going to be rolling the tanks by hand, it will be more important to get a repeatable rythm going, rather than try for a particular speed. If I remember correctly, the recommended rotational speed on the CPA2/CPP2s is around 70 rpm.

As for the 120 film, it is approximately half the length of a 36 exposure roll of 35mm film (but approximately the same area), so two rolls will fit on a reel. The new reels from Jobo have a little red tag that clips into the slot after loading one 120 film, to stop the second film overlapping the first when loading, and to prevent them moving and overlapping during processing. More often than not IME these have been removed from second hand reels.

Usually I just load one roll of 120 per reel, but if you have a lot of film to process, and you need it quickly, it can be handy.
 

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Thanks. I don't know why I didn't find that when I looked on their site yesterday. It's a good thing a picture is worth a thousand words since I don't read/understand much German.
 

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Although it is not impossible to rotate the 1500 series, in principle it's an inverse tank system. For rotation the 2500 system is much better. On the same website link the manuals from the 2500 series are also there. Further you can use the tank of the 2500 series also for (color-) paper development. You only have to change the upper part (with funel).

Best regards,

Robert

PS. The small diameter of the 1500 series can give uneven (film) development.
Inverse development:
1510; 250ml, 1520; 485ml, 1540 (=1510+1530); 975ml.

Most practical is the 1520 for 1x 135-36 or 2x (seperated with the red clip) 120 roll film. An overall volume of 500 till 550ml is still possible and an easy calculation with a Rodinal 1+50 developer :tongue:
 

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Robert V, the 1500 series is excellent for rotary processing and in my experience doesn't give any unevenness in developing.

I have processed over 5,000 35mm rolls of film in the 1500 series of tanks, I cannot ever remember having uneven development. I'm sure if I did have uneven development I would have that particular roll of film hanging up in my darkroom!

The 1520 tank, coupled with the 1530 extension module, is designed to hold 5 rolls of 35 mm film. The same combination without the reels and with different stickers on the outside, is the 8x10" paper drum.

Using my own 1520 tank and 1530 extension module, I have developed 35mm film, 120 film, colour paper, B&W paper, 8x10" sheet film (Colour negative, colour transparency & B&W) and Duratrans. These are the things I can recall off the top of my head.

The 1520 tank actually holds 2 x 35mm reels, you may be getting confused with the 1510 tank which, as it's name implies, holds 1 reel.

It is my understanding that the 1500 series of tanks and extension modules was designed from the ground up as a rotary processing system, with the added bonus of being able to do inversion processing with a small change; requiring either the addition of a magnet, or the lid cog.

I have been running my own Jobo system for over a ¼ of a century, prior to that I was using Jobo in a couple of labs, which is where I found out about it's incredible versatility.

Dan, you have made what could possibly be your first investment in a huge system. Look carefully, and, if you are lucky, you may find some extremely versatile additions to your basic system.

I have actually had uneven development with the larger 2500 series of tanks, I was processing 4x5" sheet film last year when I had this occur. It was unrelated to the actual tanks, being the 2509 reel with six sheets on, not too good.

Mick.
 

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If I want to use the rotation method to save on developer, how often do I need to be turning the tank since the film won't be fully immersed?

Rotation needs to be constant. This way the developer spins around the outside of the tank instead of pooling at the bottom.
 

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. Further you can use the tank of the 2500 series also for (color-) paper development. You only have to change the upper part (with funel).

The 2800 print drums have ridges to hold the sheets. If you convert a 2500 it won't have the ridges. That means you can only load one sheet inside. Better to convert a 2800 to a film tank then the other way.

Many of us also you 2800 tanks for sheet film. I wouldn't try 5x7 or 8x10 film in a 2500 without the ridges.
 

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Jobo 1520/1530

I just bought a used 1520/1530 set with 3 reels. I would like to use this with the inversion method for 120 film. I would load reels with one spool only of 120 film. The decal on the 1530 extension shows a volume of 725 ml for inversion. By measuring, it took 875 ml to cover 2 reels. Should I use the mfg stated volume, or my measurement that immerses both reels fully? Also, if processing only 2 reels, should I include the 3rd (empty) reel in the stack? Thanks for any help.
Gerry
 

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Here is the Jobo minimum volume for the rotary and inverse processing. These are real minimum values. I normally use for inverse processing 1520 500ml.
For the 1510+1530 (=1540) I am using 1000ml (1 ltr.)

Hopefully this table helps you a lot.

Best regards,

Robert

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