Jessops R200 B&W Developing in Rodinal

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No idea what this film is. Just received a "new" Mamiya 645 1000S with this film nearly completed inside and would like to develop it. I will use Rodinal (typically 1:50) and since a second roll has expiry date of 2002, I need to assume that exposures were taken at least 15 years ago.

Any recommendations or input on this Jessopos R200 circa 2002?
 

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It is a very old film and predates the re branded Efke film,IIRC it was a rebranded Agfa film,and must be 20 or more years old, Jessops has been gone for many years, and used Agfa film and peper just re branded for many years, then switched to Efke
 

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Just to complicate thiings, I recall that some of the 120 Jessop films stated "Made in Spain", presumably by the long-closed Valca factory ?
 

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It is a very old film and predates the re branded Efke film,IIRC it was a rebranded Agfa film,and must be 20 or more years old, Jessops has been gone for many years, and used Agfa film and peper just re branded for many years, then switched to Efke

I'm fairly sure it was the re-branded EFKE film, I was buyingJessops R100 in the late 1990's and that was definitely re-branded EFKE R25 (previously known as R14).

The doubling of the speed in theJessops name is actually indicating the Daylight ISO of the films, EFKE used the Tungsten DIN speed initially for their films later changing to the Tungsten ISO films. It's often forgotten that Ilford used to publish to ASA/BS and later ISO speeds for films like FP4 which was ISO 125 Daylight, ISO 80 Tungsten.

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Just to complicate thiings, I recall that some of the 120 Jessop films stated "Made in Spain", presumably by the long-closed Valca factory ?
Had to look up on the undeveloped roll - Made if Croatia.
 
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It is a very old film and predates the re branded Efke film,IIRC it was a rebranded Agfa film,and must be 20 or more years old, Jessops has been gone for many years, and used Agfa film and peper just re branded for many years, then switched to Efke
Well, the unopened box says - Develop before 2002-5. Does this help identify it better?
 
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I'm fairly sure it was the re-branded EFKE film, I was buyingJessops R100 in the late 1990's and that was definitely re-branded EFKE R25 (previously known as R14).

The doubling of the speed in theJessops name is actually indicating the Daylight ISO of the films, EFKE used the Tungsten DIN speed initially for their films later changing to the Tungsten ISO films. It's often forgotten that Ilford used to publish to ASA/BS and later ISO speeds for films like FP4 which was ISO 125 Daylight, ISO 80 Tungsten.

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Just occurred to me to split the box open, so here it was - Daylight 200 / Tungsten 125. Got enough info for development too as D-76 and D-11 are shown (along with Econotol 2, Acutol, Aculux).
 
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Just occured to me to split the box open, so here it was - Daylight 200 / Tungsten 125. Got enough info for development too as D-75 and D-11 are shown (along with Econotol 2, Acutol, Aculux).

I have a 1970's EFKE datasheet from when I first tried Kb14, I also just found a later data-sheet from I think early Jessops distribution the films still have the DIN names but R17 (later EFKE R100) has speeds listed as Tungsten 125 ASA and Daylight 200 ASA and a Jessops Econotol developer is added along with the others you mention.

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Just occurred to me to split the box open, so here it was - Daylight 200 / Tungsten 125. Got enough info for development too as D-76 and D-11 are shown (along with Econotol 2, Acutol, Aculux).
I don't suppose you have the development chart from the box still, do you? I've been sent a 127 roll to develop & am struggling to find the info online.
 

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I have it in my darkroom, however it's pouring heavily and it's down the garden, 2nd thoughts it's Jessops R50 and there's no Rodinal times, Ifound a scan.

However I did find this:

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Jessops R200 is R21

Welcome BTW.

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Made in Croatia does indeed mean rebranded Efke.

Jessops also used Spanish B&W film (Valca), Agfa and even Foma at various times....you might be able to identify them all by the "made in" on the box.
 
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