Is this adequate for a Calument CC400 and later an 8x10 field camera?
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CC400? Maybe, I use one for a Linhof Super Technika, it's a good match. 8x10, no, definitely not. $92 seems steep for a Chinese knockoff, real Tiltalls are made by Marchioni, then Leitz.
Thanks, what I needed to know! Corroborated what I was thinking. I guess that I will invest the money into a new head. Suggestions?
Yes, I had one with my cc-401 and cc-400. Just make sure it's clean inside the places where the handles screw in. A common problem is they build up gunk in there and the head won't tighten and hold position.The one you supplied the link for looks good. Calumet sold these as companion products to the cc-4xx series cameras.
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Interesting. I may have to reconsider.
I've got an aluminum Gitzo Pro Studex series 4 available, easy 8X10 capable. Without head: Collapsed=21.5, Extended=45.5" w/o column, w/column extended= 52" and has mounting plates on both top and bottom
Legs give a solid base with 45" between the feet
The cremelere column is a cranky uppy and even with an 8X10 on it won't slip down like a rapid column.
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The original Tiltall design was fine for the CC400 as long as there was not a lot of wind in outdoor use. I've heard the Chinese versions are not as good. I suspect it would not be good for an 8x10. I owned one of the originals many years ago and used it with my CC400.
I made my first two exposures with a Deardorff V8 on a Tiltall, it definitely is not adequate, even without the legs extended.
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Yeah- no 8x10 for a Tiltall. Not even my Canham 8x10 which is quite light for an 8x10. For an 8x10 you want something bigger and beefier, with a larger head that has a bigger contact platform to keep the camera steady.
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it'll work for a light field camera 8x10. I've used the tiltall with an 8x10 calumet ultralight field camera for about 20 years now. I own heavier tripods and use them for the 11x14's and for the 8x10 monorail.
a tiltall will be adequate for an 8x10 field camera for sure for me. I can make it work for 20 years. try it and you'll see. monorail--nope--too much weight--light weight field--deflinitely yes, if you're smart enough to know it's limitations. You're not getting full extension, nor are you going to have the camera in an unbalanced position--most field cameras allow a decent balance between front and rear standards. If you have one that only cranks out the front standard, though, this will not work. legs will go with middle's all out and the bottoms like only 6-8 inches before it gets unstable.
I'm a heavy tripod guy usually--but only for the very heavy cameras--actually my 8x10 field weighs less than a calumet metal monorail 4x5...a lot less.
it'll work for a light field camera 8x10. I've used the tiltall with an 8x10 calumet ultralight field camera for about 20 years now. I own heavier tripods and use them for the 11x14's and for the 8x10 monorail.
a tiltall will be adequate for an 8x10 field camera for sure for me. I can make it work for 20 years. try it and you'll see. monorail--nope--too much weight--light weight field--deflinitely yes, if you're smart enough to know it's limitations. You're not getting full extension, nor are you going to have the camera in an unbalanced position--most field cameras allow a decent balance between front and rear standards. If you have one that only cranks out the front standard, though, this will not work. legs will go with middle's all out and the bottoms like only 6-8 inches before it gets unstable.
I'm a heavy tripod guy usually--but only for the very heavy cameras--actually my 8x10 field weighs less than a calumet metal monorail 4x5...a lot less.
I'm with Johnielvis. An American made Tiltall has worked for me with a Kodak 2D 8x10 in favorable conditions, but not for everyday use. A well designed and built tripod is a lifetime investment. Why upgrade later when you can do it right the first time?
Jim, that's fantastic advice that many amateur photographers don't take. Years ago when I started shooting 35mm I purchased an el cheapo tripod to start with. I ended up giving it away to a friend not long after I bought it. I almost felt sorry for the friend that I gave it to but I guess it was better than not having a tripod.
We freely spend a lot on cameras and lenses but for some reason tripods are just not that exciting so we cheap out. Cameras and lenses may come and go but a great tripod is something to hold on to.
Jim, that's fantastic advice that many amateur photographers don't take. Years ago when I started shooting 35mm I purchased an el cheapo tripod to start with. I ended up giving it away to a friend not long after I bought it. I almost felt sorry for the friend that I gave it to but I guess it was better than not having a tripod.
We freely spend a lot on cameras and lenses but for some reason tripods are just not that exciting so we cheap out. Cameras and lenses may come and go but a great tripod is something to hold on to.
Good advice. My father let me use a Tiltall until I bought my own ca. 1977. Then in the late 80s. I bought a heavy old newsreel tripod for 8x10. The only tripods I'll ever need, both will outlast me by a good long margin.
I had an old Leitz Tiltall which I bought a few years ago for $75 at a local Camera Show. It's still here in the house but my daughter confiscated it for her OM-1.
I mostly use my Ries J100 with double tilt head which I bought used off Ebay. I've also got the larger Ries A100. It was a fluke. I was the only bidder in an auction on Ebay and got it dirt cheap. I love the A100 but I only use it around the house or next to my Jeep. It's too hard on my bad back to carry it any distance. I bet your old newsreel tripod is nice!It's a "Camera Equipment Co." fitted with a "Pro Jr Spring Head", also CECo, you see them pretty often in photos of newsreel photographers.Wood legs, 15.8 pounds, and it's tall enough that I can put the gg at eyelevel. I've been saying I'll make a lightweight clamshell head (cut the weight in half, that pan/tilt head weighs just under 9lbs) for oh, about 30 years now.I had an old Leitz Tiltall which I bought a few years ago for $75 at a local Camera Show. It's still here in the house but my daughter confiscated it for her OM-1.
I have one of these made by Leitz and it holds all the cameras that I own which includes 2 4x5s, 2 MF and several 35mms. I would think it might be a little light for most 8x10 cameras. When you get your 8 x 10 camera, get a good wooden tripod. 8 x 10 cameras look like they "mean business" when mounted on a wooden tripod. The wood also helps absorb vibrations. I use one with my 4x5s and even my MF cameras. I don't think I will go back to metal for those. Haven't tried a fiberglass tripod yet.......Regards!
Sounds great but heavy like my A100 with double tilt head (16.75 lbs). My J100 with double tilt head is only 9.5 lbs. Of course the carbon fiber crowd probably thinks 9.5 lbs is heavy.
Marchioni Tiltall weighs 5.5 pounds, I have an old "Fairfax Elevator", actually a quik-set iirc that weighs about 2lbs, great for smaller rf 35s and does well with a Rollei Automat, I use it hiking (as distinguished from photographic outings), it works ok with slrs & normal/wa lenses if you hang a couple rocks from the centerpost & don't crank it up.
Oh yeah, what's "carbon fiber"? 
Oh yeah, what's "carbon fiber"?
I'll probably buy one down the road but not just yet.
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I want to get back out shooting the 8X10.Since a tripod for 8x10 is considerably heavier than one that is fine for 4x5, it makes sense to me to have 2 different tripods. I own 3 different tripods: a Reis good for any larger format; a Manfrotto for up to 4x5, and a smaller Manfrotto good for small and medium format. None of them were cheap and I expect to have all 3 for a lifetime.
I have a Saltzman, takes 2 men and a boy to carry. I would look for something that meets your immediate need. I have an 8x10 Deardorff, it's pretty light and I'm too old to be out after dark , I have Delta 100 and HP5, no long exposures. I have a Manfrotto light legs and a nice head. I have a Calumet CC? Wide angle camera, very easy to tote
This is great advice and I followed it 4 times now. I've put 3 big Manfrotto tripods in the grave so far and a 4rth is on it's way. But . . . I'm pretty prolific. Maybe I just shoot more 'n y'all. I DO have a Ries. Lovely to look at. Hard to carry. It comes out for the ULF though.
Just to follow up with this. I have purchased an original Tiltall a d it works great with everything that I currently work with, up to my Calumet CC400.
The 8x10 isn't started yet, so will wait and see. I have zese a tripod construction build on the SK/Grimes site that may be done in the future.
The 8x10 isn't started yet, so will wait and see. I have zese a tripod construction build on the SK/Grimes site that may be done in the future.
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