As someone who promotes printing, I would say that scanning is not an issue for me. I just like a hardcopy to display! I myself am afraid that digital editing and printing is more than I want to tackle just now, but whatever gets the print on the wall is good!
And polluting the bay even more.
Eggs-acktly!And polluting the bay even more.
You did cover your Hass for the storm I hope. Thats the one thing it is'nt great for... the passing of water...Well, I guess you really showed him.
My comment was tongue in cheek. Some people think they are being authentic by adopting yesterday's technology, and go on and on about it, but forget there was technology from the day before yesterday, and the day before that, so all those claims of authenticity sort of ring hollow to me.
I ran a ultra high-end audio website for many years. I went to trade shows and reviewed equipment, and listened to many million dollar systems, some of which were centered around vinyl. I heard more than my fill of arguments about whether vinyl or CD (or SACD or DVD-A or hi-res digital or etc.) was better. Then there were the reel-to-reel guys. I am not sure which is worse: the film vs. digital debate or the vinyl vs. digital debate. I do know that some people are passionate about their choice.
People enjoy doing different things. I say do whatever way you want, and then show me your photographs. Telling me film is better than digital (or vice versa) and then showing me a bunch of crappy photos is not very convincing.
About ten years ago I was off roading in Moab and taking photographs with my Hasselblad and a younger old fart came up to me and told me that his son's new camera could beat the pants off my camera. I looked at him and said "You must be so proud to yourself that your son can spend so much money to get so little." He just stormed off. He wanted to rain on my parade and I just peed on him. Oh well.
Difficult to tell if it was tongue in cheek because I know people who use some truly obscure formats, but again more because they find it fun than because they think they are better or more authentic. Eh, what do I know with by B&W EIAJ 1/2 inch VTR....I don't even own an Edison phonograph.
The CD vs vinyl debate ultimately hinged, I think, on what you can't hear when you listen to a well mastered CD.....there is an absence of hiss or other analogue noise. Some people find this property very attractive, whereas I find something has been sucked out. Also I think I miss the upper harmonics because I *can* enjoy 24/96 digital audio, it feels the same as vinyl even if it sounds subtly different. I am blessed with exceptional hearing, I've even been the subject of a study because of it (could hear to over 30kHz as a child and still top out at 21kHz as II approach 50). There's no doubt that with analogue, the medium and machines colour the sound. Having said all that, in an idea world....reel to reel all the way. I don't think it's ever been matched, but it *is* a bitch to keep a RTR machine running properly and in spec. Whereas a CD player, whack the CD in the draw and hit "play". If you liked how it sounded when you bought it, you'll still like it 10 years later assuming it hasn't expired. Whereas your analogue tape recorder will need maintenance and at least one service in that time, your turntable will need a new stylus or two and a belt if it's belt drive.
Which interestingly brings me to photography again, and why box cameras and later Instamatic and other point & shoot cameras with cartridge film or motorised loading were so popular.....most people don't want to faff around. Kodak hit on convenience as a selling point very early on and ran with it....from the first film cameras to the wildly popular box cameras, 126 and 110 Instamatics, even APS was partly an attempt to make more features readily available to people with little or no interest in learning about cameras.
What about today though....are the same people who "discovered" vinyl or even cassettes as youngsters in recent years now discovering film? Or is it a different group of people? Film is certainly not mainstream right now, but could it become so again? I think we need a reliable supply of C41 film at a reasonable price in order for that to happen. I hear it's still possible to buy Fujifilm branded film at Wal-Mart in the USA, but throughout Europe no major store is selling it. I wonder if one will take the gamble if C41 film supply stabilises?
The most expensive thing about darkrooms, especially these days, is the dedicated space needed.
What if some artistically oriented photographers have thought about Film and Digital photography as being two separate mediums? Painting and printmaking are in similar relation….
99,9% of people buy trout in a shop. Does that mean nobody is interested in fly-fishing any more?
I've never had anyone come up to me and make comments like that either pro or against film or digital. If anything, people comment on my film cameras because they think it's an interesting thing to be doing these days, an anachronism. My daughters claim I have the male equivalent of RBF, so maybe that chases away the ones who would be inclined to start something.
Chris
I suppose it depends on what one considers “expensive” and where one chooses to live. A garage could be considered an “expensive” place to just park a car. My oldest is currently getting ready to buy a house and they run about $1,600/square foot where he is looking. That might be ”expensive” but relative to income it’s no worse than the $30/square foot I paid for mine when compared to our relative income levels.
Like I said on another thread, I wanted a lifestyle change about 30 years ago and one of those changes was for a space, in the house, for a good sized, dedicated darkroom. I made made a career change and moved 1,250 miles to achieve all that and more.
It’s all about choices.
Expensive in that space that could be put to other use is occupied by the darkroom. Others in the household might want that space for other things. It is a Zero Sum Game.
Nobody wanted my darkroom space since it is an unwindowed room in the basement.
Your reasons in favor of RTR and LPs are duly noted.
No teenage boys?
Nobody wanted my darkroom space since it is an unwindowed room in the basement. Plus, the place felt like a mansion since we went from house that was less that 900 square feet to one over 2,600. And it cost 1/3 of the house I sold. I am a big proponent of relocating to get what one wants. Of course, the house I am in is the 23rd address I've had in life so I've never felt tied to any piece of geography.
I like to go fly-fishing. I started with carbon fibre, but now I use a 1930s cane rod with a silk line. I also use a steel-frame bicycle. And of course film cameras. I love the aesthetics of all three, and their limitations define the game. I don't know what this says about me, but I'm happy.99,9% of people buy trout in a shop. Does that mean nobody is interested in fly-fishing any more?
I like to go fly-fishing. I started with carbon fibre, but now I use a 1930s cane rod with a silk line. I also use a steel-frame bicycle. And of course film cameras. I love the aesthetics of all three, and their limitations define the game. I don't know what this says about me, but I'm happy.
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I like to go fly-fishing. I started with carbon fibre, but now I use a 1930s cane rod with a silk line. I also use a steel-frame bicycle. And of course film cameras. I love the aesthetics of all three, and their limitations define the game. I don't know what this says about me, but I'm happy.
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I like to go fly-fishing. I started with carbon fibre, but now I use a 1930s cane rod with a silk line. I also use a steel-frame bicycle. And of course film cameras. I love the aesthetics of all three, and their limitations define the game. I don't know what this says about me, but I'm happy.
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Gears‽ How gauche!
and looking cool while doing it!
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