There's truth in what you say. What we do is add on a few days before or after the cruise. So when we cruised Alaska, we stayed an additional three days in a Vancouver hotel renting a car sightseeing up to the ski resort, Vancouver Island, Burkart Gardens, and Victoria. When we cruised down from Quebec CIty, we flew up there a day or two early and stayed in the grand hotel Le Chateau Frontenac up there eating the best French dinner I ever had as well as touring the area by rental car. You have to be flexible and think out of the box. Just add a stay for a few days at the port of departure for the ship.
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Well, at least you wouldn't get Legionnaire's disease.
That is one downside to cruising. Disease can be spread easily. Of course, you could do what newlyweds do on a honeymoon. Lock yourselves in your cabin and have them deliver your meals.
Montreal, Quebec, and eastern Canada I think can be easily toured by automobile and therefore not cruise worthy. One could enjoy the Caribbean island better by air than a cruise ship, just as the Greek island. On the other hand Antarctica would make a much better cruise than auto tour.
You need the time to drive. My Canada cruise would have run about 2500 miles if driven
I think you've missed the point of the thread. Nobody has said that film usage and productions volumes will ever return to 1990's levels, but rather after many pretty much thought film was dead after 2008-2009, the volumes are recovering from that low and are showing healthy increases in sales, particularly in the last 5 years. Major players like Ilford are able to manufacture film and related products at a profit, and that wasn't predicted 15 years ago.
So rather than certain extinction, film photography seems to have a bright, and more importantly, sustainable future ahead.
Same reason we still warm up valve amps on a Sunday morning and play Coltrane on vinyl …… there’s pleasure in the process and the tactile nature of the equipment as well at the audio output ………..
So rather than certain extinction, film photography seems to have a bright, and more importantly, sustainable future ahead.
Perhaps this is true if one is creating an in-depth analysis of societal and market trends.
But I don't think we are set up well for that here.
We are better set up for functioning as a clearing house for the personal and anecdotal. Given the international flavour of Photrio, we might actually be particularly well suited for that clearing house role.
I have no problem with someone sharing their pessimistic outlook, plus their concern about how some of the positive information seen elsewhere seems high in enthusiasm but low in data.
That is part of the clearing house.
But donning the moderator's hat for a moment, I would say that we don't favour members criticizing other members for holding a differing opinion. You can however feel free to challenge the substance of that differing opinion, and to state the reasons why your opinion differs.
Moderator's hat off again.
Here is a thought to save yourself some money.As we’ve discussed on other threads, it’s the process that attracts many to film and, likely, keeps some of us involved in it. While the digital world provides its own seemingly endless range of features, particularly in post-processing, film itself has many avenues to explore. After all, we do have an alternative processes forum here which provides lots of options for the curious.
We just need new medium format cameras and large format lenses. That's completely incomprehensible for me, that Schneider, Nikon and Rodenstock have discontinued their LF lenses when there are so many new cameras available - Intrepid, Toyo, Linhof, Wista, Cambo, Chamonix, and maybe more...
As we’ve discussed on other threads, it’s the process that attracts many to film and, likely, keeps some of us involved in it. While the digital world provides its own seemingly endless range of features, particularly in post-processing, film itself has many avenues to explore. After all, we do have an alternative processes forum here which provides lots of options for the curious.
It is interesting how things that were popular at one time decline over time, replaced by either innovations or lack of interest. As an example, I’d bring up the world of music. A few generations ago, it was very common for families to have a musical instrument in the house, especially a piano. Popular music rankings were based, in part, on sheet music sales, a product that has been in decline. A piano was an expensive addition to a home and now, pianos and, especially, organs, are giving away for free on CraigsList and other marketplaces. While certainly anecdotal, when growing up (and I lived in several states doing so) most kids I knew took some kind of music lessons. I took a very informal poll of those in my current running club and found several who did music as a kid but no one who plays currently. Full disclosure: I took years of piano lessons as a kid, still have a piano that I play on occasion, but in my mid-teens I switched to guitar which I still play.
Anyway, I guess my point is that the popularity of things can ebb and flow for a variety of factors including technology and marketing, not to mention the impact of ”influencers.” After all, who knew that body art would become a thing like it is now?
In the meantime, I’m headed out to beat the big snowstorm and shoot some expired Tri-X and drop it in some Caffenol.
Electronic keyboards are much less expensive than pianos and organs
It’s as if what we are saying doesn’t really seem to register.
We just need new medium format cameras and large format lenses. That's completely incomprehensible for me, that Schneider, Nikon and Rodenstock have discontinued their LF lenses when there are so many new cameras available - Intrepid, Toyo, Linhof, Wista, Cambo, Chamonix, and maybe more...
Sometimes you can't convince a person, even if you feel you're giving good arguments. At that point, let it go. I say that as a moderator and that's also why both Matt and I intervened earlier. At some point it's no longer a constructive discussion and that's the point where we step in as mods. Beyond this point, it just gets nasty and that's not what this forum is for.
Please note: this is not a notion I'm putting up for debate. It's the final polite admonition to drop it.
We just need new medium format cameras and large format lenses….
...the remaining manufacturers cannot keep up with demand for film...
More correct would be that some remaining manufacturers cannot keep up with the demand for confectioning/finishing of 35mm color film, while others have concluded that even today's elevated market prices aren't sufficient to justify production of certain film (and paper) products.
That is something that makes sense because a large format camera is a very simple machine, and a lens and shutter in comparison is quite complicated. I find it interesting that these film cameras are still made with the number of used ones on the market at reasonable prices. Of course, Cambo and Arca Swiss also make digital-back cameras with movements that sell for a pretty penny.We just need new medium format cameras and large format lenses. That's completely incomprehensible for me, that Schneider, Nikon and Rodenstock have discontinued their LF lenses when there are so many new cameras available - Intrepid, Toyo, Linhof, Wista, Cambo, Chamonix, and maybe more...
Absolutely spot on about the other manufacturers who can't be bothered to produce film evem at today's elevated prices.
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