This supposed resurgence in Film Photography is largely a passing fad. It will eventually start to round off, die down.
I don't think it will drive down the price of the old M6s. The new one is $5800 w/ tax in CA. Someone interested in that, but who may find the cost a bridge too far, could look at the old one - which for all intents and purposes looks and functions the same - and go for that.
If anything it may spur renewed interest in old M6s! Look I can get an M6 for 1/2 the price of a new one!
Maybe not the M6. Time will tell. But I think in general, old Leicas will go down in price, especially the ones that are more expensive. It's like cars. Once the dealers started to get more new cars to sell, the price of used cars went down in price. Who wants to spend so much on a used car when you can buy a new one. Same with cameras.
Like cars, some are collectible and hold or go up in value over time. The classic film Leicas tend to be in that category.
Classic cars don't get reissued new. The old cars are the only ones available. Leica changed the landscape by selling new M6's.
Would you spend $3000 on a thirty-year-old M6 or $5200 on a brand-new one? I think the people who can drop $3000 on an old camera of questionable mechanical and aesthetic quality can drop $5200 on a brand-new unit. Leica is smart at pricing it just enough to the used price to encourage buyers to buy the new one. So that should force sellers to reduce the price on the old ones.
In any case, let's check back in 6 months to see what actually happens. In any case, maybe this will encourage other camera companies to reissue cameras like Nikon's F6.
Classic cars don't get reissued new. The old cars are the only ones available. Leica changed the landscape by selling new M6's.
Would you spend $3000 on a thirty-year-old M6 or $5200 on a brand-new one? I think the people who can drop $3000 on an old camera of questionable mechanical and aesthetic quality can drop $5200 on a brand-new unit. Leica is smart at pricing it just enough to the used price to encourage buyers to buy the new one. So that should force sellers to reduce the price on the old ones.
In any case, let's check back in 6 months to see what actually happens. In any case, maybe this will encourage other camera companies to reissue cameras like Nikon's F6.
I think when Studebaker closed, Avantis continued to be made from the remaining parts by a Studebaker dealer. The later cars made by Avanti Motors were replicas.Avantis were reissued by other manufacturers.
Avantis were reissued by other manufacturers.
I’d love to get a source one that.Worth noting that the men who actually came up with the CD red book format described it as "mid-fi, at best". It was never supposed to be some great hi-fi thing. That was Phillips' US marketing team. Who, as US marketing teams tend to do, lied.
Sony actually had a larger disc in mind to begin with. AFAIR it was even analog PWM encoded like Laserdisc.It was engineers at Sony who came up with the red book standard, and since Sony was bankrolling the whole thing, we were stuck with it.
Lifeless midfi sound that distorted high frequencies and lacked inner detail, you bet.
Classic cars don't get reissued new.
Classic cars don't get reissued new.
Not entirely true. A few years ago, Jaguar discovered some E-Type VIN's that hadn't been issued to cars. So they built some brand new, original spec, E-Types. Granted, there were only half a dozen, and they sold out instantly for large sums of money, but it has happened.
There are also "better than new" rebuilds out there for Jaguar, MG and others-- a company will buy an old MGB, for instance, tear it down to the frame, and build it back up with new or refurbished parts, along with fixing any incidental issues from manufacture (or 40+ years of abuse), tune up the engine, suspension, beef up the brakes, blueprint the rebuilt engine-- the result is a car that looks and sounds like the original, but drives and handles substantially better.
A bit like what Arax was doing with Kiev cameras.
Back in the late 1980's, when I still had my MGB, Moss Motors (who bought up the North American spare parts of British Leyland), was so heavily involved in fabrication that they built a "brand new" MGB roadster from parts at a North American car show-- they started unloading parts from a truck on Thursday, and Sunday they fired up the new car and drove it around.
Yes, I realize these are anomalies.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/cars/mustang/2020/models/bullitt/
This should be interesting....
Purist collectors damn well know the difference between an original and a new duplicate, and they're willing to pay the price.
You didn't address my point. When a company reissues the same model as new that was old, the price of the old models would reduce in value because they're not as rare and a person could buy a new duplicate of the same car.
The price for a new M6 is more than an old M6.
Maybe not the M6. Time will tell. But I think in general, old Leicas will go down in price, especially the ones that are more expensive. It's like cars. Once the dealers started to get more new cars to sell, the price of used cars went down in price. Who wants to spend so much on a used car when you can buy a new one. Same with cameras.
This supposed resurgence in Film Photography is largely a passing fad. It will eventually start to round off, die down.
The first-timers at our community darkroom hold their cellphone in one hand while agitating the film tank with the other.
Sometimes they'll bring them into the darkroom for printing and we have to holler at them - NO !!!
Studibaker was an interesting case, when they closed in the states, they continured to build cars for a couple more years in Hamilton Ontario.I think when Studebaker closed, Avantis continued to be made from the remaining parts by a Studebaker dealer. The later cars made by Avanti Motors were replicas.
Sony actually had a larger disc in mind to begin with. AFAIR it was even analog PWM encoded like Laserdisc.
Yes, I invented it.
Really‽
Please do tell me more!
Specs?
How close was it to release before the decision to collaborate with Phillips?
I’d love to get a source one that.
That would be very interesting to read.
Sony actually had a larger disc in mind to begin with. AFAIR it was even analog PWM encoded like Laserdisc.
Yes, I invented it.
Why are you even here, in a mainly film forum then, if film has one foot in the grave?
It will most likely not die off.
There are lots of revived stuff that carries on fine decades or even centuries after their supposedly last sell by date.
People still ride horses and light candles.
Vinyl never really died. And had a big resurgence 15 - 20 years ago.
Film never really died either and a strong resurgence has been going from at least 2015/16.
What’s more film as is partly the case with vinyl too is not just revivalism. It’s a medium that does most of what’s important better or much better.
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