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Mmm tube amps.
Guitars that were designed in the 50's are still the most popular guitars ever made. Then again, they're still flying a bomber from that era.
I do wonder how much crossover there is. I was shooting film at a micropub in Gravesend a few weeks ago, as they had a guitarist performing there. He was quite interested that I was shooting him on film, as his wife/partner had a digital camera and he felt the film would add a certain something to the pictures and asked if he could see them with a view to using them for marketing. His partner was *pissed off*.
Said pub has an event every Thursday where they get out a thoroughly decent turntable and invite punters to bring their own records. My local jazz and blues club does something similar once a month, as well as having a couple of regular film shooters attend gigs. One photo I shot there on my Yashica Minister III did in fact end up adorning a 12x12 LP cover - purely because the musician loved the shot I took of him playing and offered to throw money at me.
Music and film...two of my passions...
...making photographs requires making prints.
Online sharing doesn't share "photographs". What we see online merely refers to something else, something that barely exists...whatever it is cannot be a photograph.
Have you ever considered how rude it is to post something like that? There are people who practice photography in many different ways. One way is exposing transparency film and subsequently scanning it, then presenting their photographs digitally on a screen. Your words claim they're not engaged in photography. That seems to be argumentative for the sake of provocation in this mixed workflow forum category.
What is the goal of such an approach to posting? Convincing those who engage in mixed workflow photography to abandon it as "not valid?" Or?
Sort of seemed like to me that he was just expressing his opinion. And of course, you have posted your opinion to the contrary, so that seem fair...
...It seems perfectly appropriate to make a comment about the primacy of making prints in a mixed workflow forum. There is more to mixed workflow than shooting film, scanning it, and posting it on social media. A lot of people around here use a mixed workflow to make prints. I make all kinds of prints using a mixed workflow.
There are many people who have opinions based on not accepting the real meaning of words. When those opinions are stated as fact in a provocative manner, it's rude. Nothing fair about it.
There's nothing appropriate about making a comment in this PHOTRIO category about the "primacy" of making prints.
There is more to mixed workflow than shooting film, scanning it and making prints.
Yes, there is. All you have to do is look at the catalog of a place like Freestyle. Film hit its nadir about 2008. Somewhere here I have a post of that year lamenting the very, very few film and paper options at Freestyle. Literally, just a few. And, if not there, where?
And look at Kodak resuscitating many of their old films.
There's a huge fan overlap between audiophiles and photographers. Probably most here know of the resurgence in analog audio.
Like many here, I used digital cameras and digital audio, but for fun and satisfaction, it's back to analog. As many are discovering, even the young. Nothing like holding a piece of art in that 12"x12" LP cover. Versus some scribble on an MP3 player.
We are analog creatures!
There are many people who have opinions based on not accepting the real meaning of words. When those opinions are stated as fact in a provocative manner, it's rude. Nothing fair about it...
People disagree about the meaning of words all the time. There are probably a couple of thousands posts here on Photrio where film enthusiasts have said digital is not real photography...
Exactly. Note the word "real" in my post. "Disagreeing" about the real meaning of a real word and posting that disagreement as if the unreal opposing "opinion" represents some factual reality is rude. And unfair to those who practice whatever mechanization of photography the unreal opposing "opinion" is denigrating.
Actually you're right about the noun-ness vs verb-ness, so I'll reframe: making photographs requires making prints.
Expressing their differences of opinion is not rude, and certainly not denigrating, just because you disagree.
People disagree about the "real" meaning of the "real" word "photography". Expressing their differences of opinion is not rude, and certainly not denigrating, just because you disagree.
The world in general, and Photrio in particular, would be a better place if instead of saying "X is the case" people more often said "I think/believe that X is the case".
Yes, there is. All you have to do is look at the catalog of a place like Freestyle. Film hit its nadir about 2008. Somewhere here I have a post of that year lamenting the very, very few film and paper options at Freestyle. Literally, just a few. And, if not there, where?
And look at Kodak resuscitating many of their old films.
There's a huge fan overlap between audiophiles and photographers. Probably most here know of the resurgence in analog audio.
Like many here, I used digital cameras and digital audio, but for fun and satisfaction, it's back to analog. As many are discovering, even the young. Nothing like holding a piece of art in that 12"x12" LP cover. Versus some scribble on an MP3 player.
We are analog creatures!
No. Chopped liver.I don't have a darkroom. Does that make me chop meat?
Continued arguments about what words mean are just going to result in either post deletions or thread closure or both.
For future reference, please point members to where in the PHOTRIO rules/guidelines a series of non-ad hominem posts conversing about the meaning of the word "photography" is considered an "argument" and prohibited.
The world in general, and Photrio in particular, would be a better place if instead of saying "X is the case" people more often said "I think/believe that X is the case".
Mmm tube amps.
Guitars that were designed in the 50's are still the most popular guitars ever made. Then again, they're still flying a bomber from that era.
I am not sure if young people taking up film has anything to do with nostalgia. They don't remember the 1990s and don't get nostalgic for those times
Oh yes, the majority of (electric) guitarists who I encounter who have valve (tube) or hybrid amps vastly outnumbers those who use solid state. One runs his own business manufacturing new valve guitar amps....some classic 60s designs are back in production...with valve (tube) suppliers offering matched sets of vintage branded valves for the best possible performance.
I am not sure if young people taking up film has anything to do with nostalgia. They don't remember the 1990s and don't get nostalgic for those times....it's more that it's new and tactile to them in an era when so many things are touch screens or voice activated.
Sure they do. In the 80s and early 90s teens of the time were "nostalgic" for the 60s without having any memory of that time. Lots of kids in my high school affected various levels of 60s dress and music (for the record, I'm 49).
Chris
Whilst on eBay, I put in "Nikon camera" in the "cameras and photography" category and came up w/ over 120,000 hits. When I changed the category to "film photography", I got 10,000. Hmmmm.
Many years in market research tells me that this means something.
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