Is the film craze dead?

[Cholentpot]

I want Kodachrome back just so I can see Cinestill try to sell home K14 developing kits.

EDIT: And Kodachrome Basin Park is a Utah state park, not national. (I visited last year, and shot a roll of Ektachrome there--since that was the best I could do.)

Sorry. It's just a park then.

I think there was a Kodachrome II. How about Kodachrome 2.0 in keeping with modern technology.

I've heard that it was a bit of a muddy mess. I wasn't around.

You could very well be right. A little creative marketing is all that's necessary. Plus, ICE during scanning will work with E version as it doesn't work with the original Kodachrome.

Yep. Marketing. Kodak isn't very good at it these days though.

 

[MattKing]

I think there was a Kodachrome II.

Yep.

And (probably)

It was revolutionary - Kodachrome at ASA 25! (it had been 10 before).

 

[Overrank]

I don't this is really true because at the time of its introduction in 1982, if a lab wanted to process and print Disc then they had to invest in the equipment. The minimum this would entail is a special rack for Disc film on C41 dip & dunk machines (not a huge investment) and then the carrier for Disc on the volume printers (this was a bit of an investment) Any Disc carriers that I saw were well made and had good optics.

The thing I’ve seen mentioned a number of times is that Kodak has special six element enlargers, but photofinishers continued to use their old equipment ( e.g. https://mikeeckman.com/2022/11/kepplers-vault-103-kodak-disc-film/ ). Now whether this is a myth that keeps being repeated I don’t know, but the images on the tiny enprints you used to get with disc were not very impressive, but copying with a macro lens can give images which could be enlarged bigger the 5” x 3.5”

The format was capable of good quality in the right hands but like, in general, 110 was of poorer quality than 126. Disc was of poorer quality than 110.

I think with the demise of the Disc format, the consumer changed over to 35mm (the growth of simple point & shoot) and later to a small extent APS.

If you look at the contemporary literature APS was a bit of a success initially, but some decisions put people off e.g. if you shot a roll on P (panorama) setting then you could unexpectedly be charged $$$$ when you picked up the photos. Towards the turn of the century there were 35mm systems that were as easy as APS (e.g. Kodak’s EasyLoad)

 

[Roger Cole]

The format was capable of good quality in the right hands but like, in general, 110 was of poorer quality than 126. Disc was of poorer quality than 110.

I think with the demise of the Disc format, the consumer changed over to 35mm (the growth of simple point & shoot) and later to a small extent APS.

That was both true and setting the bar very low. On the one hand, 110 sure was bad. On the other hand, Disc was even worse.

I know that with the few GOOD 110 cameras - the Pentax and Minolta SLRs for example - 110 was capable of better quality but it was still subminiature.

APS was a different matter, as discussed above. It was big enough with the improved films by that time to produce really good results, but cost more to shoot for multiple reasons and added features that, while kind of cool, the lower end shooters didn't want to pay for and the higher end ones didn't need.

 

[MattKing]

The rationale for APS was that it would aid in the gradual switch over of the market from film to digital - lenses and lots of other infrastructure were designed for the same frame/sensor size.
As we now know, that switch was far from gradual, and the evolution of APS film was extremely short lived.

 

[aw614]

I remember the marketing of APS/Advantix as a kid, and it was one of those things where I wanted my parents to get one because it seemed "cooler" than regular 35mm haha. Still see some Canon, Minolta and Olympus APS point and shoots at thrift stores, but not having available fresh film has deterred me from trying them out.

 

[miha]

The rationale for APS was that it would aid in the gradual switch over of the market from film to digital

First time I hear this! It does make sense, though.

 

[AnselMortensen]

There's no need to bring back Kodachrome!
There's plenty of old stock being pre-wet, and stand-developed in Caffenol as it is now!

 

[Sirius Glass]

In a lot of restaurants, tips are pooled and split among the wait staff, counter staff, cooks, and cleaners - whoever isn't management but is working that shift. So, you pick up an order and the only thing that's different for anyone who works there is the fact that you weren't served at a table. Everything still needed to be prepared and packed. That's the reason for the expectation.

If it is not served my table, no tip. Also no tip if my meal is served at someone else's table.

 

[madNbad]

Apparently the film/VAT/sales tax /tipping/ Advantix/ Kodachrome craze isn't quite dead on Photrio!

 

[BrianShaw]

Apparently the film/VAT/sales tax /tipping/ Advantix/ Kodachrome craze isn't quite dead on Photrio!

Nor is the Nikon F2 craze dead yet!

 

[campy51]

Can I get a full year membership for free? Look how much film discussion I created, we maybe close to edge of the internet so don't fall off.

 

[madNbad]

Can I get a full year membership for free?

Only if you leave a 20% tip, or five rolls of Advantix.

 

[AnselMortensen]

Nor is the Nikon F2 craze dead yet!

I'm still wondering what the VAT/ tax implications could be if the F2 Was or Wasn't given a CLA.

 

[Pieter12]

I'm still wondering what the VAT/ tax implications could be if the F2 Was or Wasn't given a CLA.

That is a no-brainer. It depend on if was done by Sover Wong or not.

 

[pentaxuser]

That is a no-brainer. It depend on if was done by Sover Wong or not.

Yes as someone once said: "You can't go Wong with Sover"

On my death bed when few details, if any, about Photrio will remain, this will remain with me

pentaxuser

 

[250swb]

Yes as someone once said: "You can't go Wong with Sover"

On my death bed when few details, if any, about Photrio will remain, this will remain with me

pentaxuser

Well discriminatory 'jokes' aside Sover Wong has created a unique niche, but it's not to say other camera repairers can't do a similar job if without the added tinsel and bells. It depends if you want a job done, or a job done sometime in the future.

 

[dave olson]

I just ordered a small amount of 35 and 120, C-41 and E-6, the expiration dates are 2024 and 2025, all Kodak. Not sure what that proves but interesting. Of course it immediately went into the freezer.

 

[braxus]

I have a couple lenses (expensive ones) for my digital cameras for sale, and its a really hard sell at the moment. Hardly any bites on them. This recession and inflation is kinda putting the end to spending at the moment.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

There is a price point that's low enough people will buy them. I'd check to see what ebay's range is and then beat it by ten percent of the lower range.

 

[Mogens]

I feel priced out of color photography. Between the film, shipping, and the development it’s about $30 per roll. So I’m shooting less of it.

 

[Yashica]

I feel priced out of color photography. Between the film, shipping, and the development it’s about $30 per roll. So I’m shooting less of it.

Me too. But like 90% of my pictures have been b&w anyway, especially with (35mm) Film. It's only that landscapes does look better into color, at times.

 

[pbromaghin]

I feel priced out of color photography. Between the film, shipping, and the development it’s about $30 per roll. So I’m shooting less of it.

I decide early last year to go completely with B&W, but I'm still considering putting a toe back in the water with ECN2. You made me look at current C41 prices, since it's been a while. HOLY MOLY!

 

[Mogens]

I decide early last year to go completely with B&W, but I'm still considering putting a toe back in the water with ECN2. You made me look at current C41 prices, since it's been a while. HOLY MOLY!

Right? It just makes it less fun. I have some color 120 left that I’m saving for a trip to Yellowstone in August. But after that I’m done.

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

Right? It just makes it less fun. I have some color 120 left that I’m saving for a trip to Yellowstone in August. But after that I’m done.

When I go on vacation I take the attitude that it is my patriotic duty to fart money and enjoy myself. I have extended this attitude to film prices year-round.