Is Photography Art? Why/ why Not?

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A simple definition of art is that "art is the imitation of life", right? Then I think that explains quite a bit.

On the other hand, the preservation of art is a different game, which is more like running a marathon for the artist after his/her death. The question is, who is going to?
 

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Some of my favorite photographs that totally inspire me (i.e., from Adams to Weston, to Cunningham to Bernhard, etc..) did not look that way when the shutter was released, but they were expressed that way in the final print.

Photography seems like art to me

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Photography isn't art, but art can be made from photography.
 

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Is Photography Art?"

Jesus, this old chestnut again?

Yeah, the lights were turned out on this argument over a Century ago.

Photography CAN be art, just like painting, or dance or sculpture or ...

Did your friend go to Bob Jones University? :wink:

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Is Photography Art?

Yes! (That will be $1,000, please).
 

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Yes it's art..

because when you see a photograph, you see formiliar things in a way that you have never seen before.
The process of photographing is science, but what happens before you click is art. What you shoot, how, from where, what light you use, what film you chose and why..

People often confuse art and craft. They think art is a skill that you have, like painting. But painting may or may not be art. It's art if you are expressing a vision, if you are just copying what you see, then its not art, but craft. You can have craft without art, and you can have art without craft. But the best craft and art come when they are together.
Art begins in the mind, a really specific and strong vision, can already be art, with craft it becomes what we all can see or hear or touch
 

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mrcallow said:
Photography isn't art, but art can be made from photography.

There is no art. There are artists only.

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I 've seen three different types of artists being credited as doing photography.

Firstly is the performance artist who does the actions of camera use: basically pointing, looking, clicking. Eventually the camera won't click anymore because some gizmo inside it is full or used up. Hand the gizmo (CF card, casette, spool with funny paper on it, whatever ?) to a helpful person along with some money and eventually pictures come back. The performance artist is (somehow) a photographer. Ironically the performance artist does not need to know that the photographic medium exists. Just do the actions, pay the money, and pictures follow. A contentious example would be Henri Cartier-Bresson. Only by the thinnest coincidence of history and technology did he do his camera work when film was the ordinary stuff to put in cameras. In other eras his pictures would still be wonderful but not photographs. H. C-B, I suspect, would not care a damn.

There are those who know the medium, nuance the light, do the processing and end up with pictures consisting of accumulated marks occasioned by the impact of light. Since the products of their work are indubitably photographs I guess these folks are photographers too. Examples would include E. Weston, A.Adams and most APUGers.

In recent years a new species of artist has evolved whose medium is photographs. No, not making photographs but rather making art out of photographs. End products of their work are often collages, assemblages, installations. Arthur C. Danto, the American writer, has suggested the word photographist instead of photographer for these workers. I would suggest some major art from David Hockney or Bill Henson would fall firmly into the photographist category.
 

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lkorell said:
Everybody knows there is no such thing as art. If there was it would be taught in all the schools and shown more on television. ??????

School is for sports. Humanities, who needs em?
 

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Come on think about it. Why does it matter to you whether somenoe considers photography art or by extension a photographer as being capable of being an artist?

Does not the fact that you are concerned about it say something about the ego an securities on the people on either side of the question?

Will having an opinion about it change the nature of a photograph or photography?

Does an object made for a viewing audience that causes a reaction by having been made and viewed become intrinsically different if it is a considered piece of fine craftsmenship as opposed to being looked upon good work of art?
 

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A rose is a rose regardless of label. Why should we care if you call it a rose and I call it flower? It is only important if we wish to understand each other better. If the word rose is thought to have a higher pedigree than flower, how does that reflect upon yours or my ego or securities?

If art is an object that can be made from any material, which I think it is, than it is a dumb question.

It is probably dumber to run from the word art as is often done here. If art is some amorphous entity than I suspect we all benefit by talking about it.
 

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Seriously, it is not an important question. If you do what you love to do and you are satisfied with what you are creating, it does not matter what it is called.
Art is an experience that, when defined, creates a box that doesn't come close to accurately describing it. Not many people understand art, its role in society, and especially those who participate in its creation. That mystery is what makes it a unique and beautiful experience for us...and that is what counts the most. (IMHO)

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And how are we to distinguish between roses and weeds?
 

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BradS said:
And how are we to distinguish between roses and weeds?

The same way you personally distinguish between what is art and what is not...
 

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I figure no one likes being put down for choosing photography as a creative outlet. It is no fun when someone claims a high point from which they can demean another person's efforts at expression.

If I have an interesting photograph and a boring painting on my wall, which one will people look at more than once?

A more interesting question would be: If what I am being shown sucks, is it Art?
 

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In case you guys didn't know: In Canada, photography is not an art, from the perspective of the law.

Read the explanation here in my longish post: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Next question, please.
 

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I think she is jealous, of course Photography is an art. While we don't muck around with pencils, paint, clay, crayons etc. We make images, pleasing images with light, mechanics, chemicals and thin strips of plastic film. These images can be for strictly beauty's sake, tell a story, start a controversy, used for purly commercial purposes. Regardless of the goal it is the creative side of your brain that gets the workout.
As for what other "artists" think of this medium, that is their problem, not mine.

Bill
 

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BradS said:
And how are we to distinguish between roses and weeds?

Thistles are considered flowers in some parts of the world. In
Nebraska and probably other parts of the US they are considered noxious weeds by the states department of agriculture.

The point being that while I consider photography to be an art form, critics, curators, collectors and peers determine if a particular persons work should be elevated to that lofty standard.

Now that does not mean that the director of the department of photography at MOMA needs to like your work. If it brings some joy and satisfaction to you and a few others, does it really matter how anyone else classifies it?
 
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