RalphLambrecht
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Since you're the ones who make it theses days: 'silver gelatin' it is!
Dear All,
We have always referred to our products as silver gelatin, the worldwide museum community and auction houses usually have it the other way around, I do not think there is a right or wrong way personally.
Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology limted :
I've been seeing the terms silver gelatin and gelatin silver for as long as I've been looking at photographs in museums--they're certainly not new terms, and weren't created as a response to digital prints. It's been standard practice for museums to describe the print medium to distinguish between processes--salt print, albumen, platinum, bromoil, photogravure, etc.
I am sure that you are quite pleased with your "discovery", but I would like to point out two things.
In the premier days of analog, the term Silver Gelatin was only used by fringe analog photographers to distinguish their materials from mainstream photography.
I'm sorry but in NYC, I went to and was in numerous shows in the 1980's where my work was labeled as "Gelatin Silver" and prior to that the term was widely in use in the galleries here. I've seen it over and over again. I remember hearing one of the proprietors of the Light Gallery explaining it's meaning to a prospective client. That memory is about 1978. (Right after my divorce which is something that you don't forget.)
Who cares?
I do. More precisely, I did. I was submitting my work to be judged and displayed. It was important to me that I describe my work accurately and correctly per established standard. (only to find out, there is no such standard....)
The nice thing about standards Is that there are so many of them.
Is it sliver gelatin or gelatin silver?
Ok, here is the word from George Eastman House and from Eastman Kodak people to further enlighten us all.
Curators at museums and art galleries use Gelatin-Silver. Conservators use Silver-Gelatin as they wish to know the imaging medium first. Either can be used in displays or not at all. Usually, they can be identified at the discretion of the Curator or by product name. Neither naming convention was ever used at Eastman Kodak. The naming conventions may or may not be used at any specific museum or art studio, but with the proviso given above for order of words.
PE
silver-gelatin but don't care as long as it is B&WReferring to our usual BW printing process, is it "silver gelatin" process or "gelatin silver" process? Which is correct??
I've seen it stated both ways.
Also, I typically see this notation when referring to traditionally processed BW prints but films are basically the same technology, correct???
Aren't the silver and the gelatin actually an amalgam?
It was in response to Ces1um's post about silver "modifying" the gelatin or gelatin "modifying" the silver, and using that as a guide for what phrase would be more appropriate.Where did this come from????
PE
I had to look up amalgam. For some reason I was thinking 'palindrome' and I tried spelling amalgam backwards...but maglama made less sense than my usual posts.Where did this come from???? PE
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