Is Emulsion magazine still being produced?

yurihuta · Sep 14, 2007

I sent in a payment on July 28th and have yet to receive anything. I sent out many emails (many of which bounced back as having full mailboxes: editor; webmaster; sales@emulsionmagazine.org) and have not heard anything back. I even bothered to look up their whois info and emailed to the people who are billing/admin as well as technical contacts. No word.

Quite poor business pratice and etiquette.

jgcull · Sep 14, 2007

I tried contacting them via their contact info at the website. It was returned as undeliverable, just like yurihuta's address above.

THardy · Sep 16, 2007

Maybe we can set up some system to send the issues around to those who have not seen them yet?

yardkat · Sep 16, 2007

I also paid last November and have never seen anything, not one issue, not a mailing, not a nothing. I emailed several times, AND sent a real paper letter to Hurricane and included copies of the numerous emails I sent and never got a response. Actually, that's not true. Last spring I did get one response to an email saying that I did pay when I said I did and would get an issue within the week. I didn't. Then not another peep. I've given up. Very disappointing.
Julie

michael9793 · Sep 17, 2007

At this point I would say the magazine has gone under. I never got my third issue like some and no replies. I say when it comes time for renewal or anything with them we stop supporting them. they don't want to help us, then I say no helping them. I can't believe those who spent money on advertising aren't flaming mad.
Boy it would have been a good magazine. B&W magazine is worth being greatly appreciated.

michael andersen

removed account4 · Sep 17, 2007

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=25668

MenacingTourist · Sep 17, 2007

It's one thing to voice your opinion based on your personal experience but to comment on the experiece of the advertisers is inapropriate. How could you possibly know what that situation is?

Granted, the ball has been dropped with several subscribers but we should stick with what we know. Personally, I know what the advertising situation is and it's a sweetheart deal. If the magazine dropped dead right now (I have no idea either way) the advertisers wouldn't be out anything.

Good luck with all of this. If you or yardkat need copies I can mail some to you as I have several copies of each issue.

Alan.

Photo Engineer · Sep 17, 2007

jnanian said:
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=25668

Reading this, I note that they were posts from May. Lots of things may have changed since May. IDK.

PE

David A. Goldfarb · Sep 17, 2007

I last heard from Aggie in mid-August regarding the APUG Traveling Portfolio, and at the same time, she updated my subscription address, so they were certainly still in business as recently as a month ago.

jgcull · Sep 17, 2007

Who's Aggie?

David A. Goldfarb · Sep 17, 2007

Agnes Weesies, the publisher.

jgcull · Sep 17, 2007

Well, I wonder if she reads threads like this one. Maybe she'll see it and fulfill our subscriptions or else refund our money, aye? I hope she succeeds. I love the idea of a magazine that's all film photography. I was looking forward to seeing it.

mark · Sep 18, 2007

She very seldom if ever comes to APUG anymore. She has her reasons, like others who choose to no longer come here. So, the chance of her seeing this is pretty slim, unless someone tells her about it.

Photo Engineer · Sep 18, 2007

She has seen the queries on LFF, and has not updated them since May.

She certainly goes there. She also has friends who come here I would think. This smacks of the same events that transpired regarding J&C. I think that she owes her customers some comment, even via a third party.

I wish her well, just as I hope that John is doing well, but I belive that they both owe their customers some information to update the situation.

PE

naturephoto1 · Sep 18, 2007

We have had discussions and have been waiting for replies from Aggie over at LFF as well. Many of us are hoping to receive the next issue and to extend our subscriptions presuming the magazine will continue to be published.

Rich

tchamber · Sep 18, 2007

mark said:
She very seldom if ever comes to APUG anymore.

That's an interesting business model. I wonder where the subscriber base for an analog photography magazine comes from, if not from APUG'ers?

naturephoto1 · Sep 18, 2007

tchamber said:
That's an interesting business model. I wonder where the subscriber base for an analog photography magazine comes from, if not from APUG'ers?

Aggie used to be a long time prominent member of APUG. When we had some turmoil here at APUG about 10?? months ago she and several other prominent members exited.

Rich

Sean · Sep 18, 2007

Well, I wouldn't say several, that makes it sound like there was a mass exodus. It looks like 1 or 3 left, all that did leave either came back and are actively posting or still lurk here judging by the site logs..

CRhymer · Sep 18, 2007

Photo Engineer said:
She has seen the queries on LFF, and has not updated them since May.
I wish her well, just as I hope that John is doing well, but I believe that they both owe their customers some information to update the situation.

PE

I couldn't agree more. I bought a lot from John, and am only short a few odds and ends. I did quite well all in all. I also sprang for an Emulsion subscription and received, IIRC, three issues, which may now be a complete set. I should hope that we all make allowances for health problems, but it would not be very onerous to give the buyers/subscribers some information, even if it is bad news. I must say, I am puzzled, and feel quite badly for those who are out of pocket, in some cases substantially. I think there have been some bridges burned, and it may make it harder for anyone else to come forward, because people will be more cautious. This community (APUG, LFF, etc., etc.) needs every resource it can get. I wish Aggie and John had been more honest with us.

Regretfully,
Clarence

tim rudman · Sep 18, 2007

FWIW I may have a little news here.
Aggie came on my lith printing workshop last week. I asked about Emulsion and was assured that it is still in production, although very extreme and unpredictable circumstances occured which interrupted production apparently. (Not my place to expand on details).
I was told that the next number will be at the printer v soon and also had discussions about content of a future issue (again not my place, I think, to repeat in open forum)
I have no connection to Aggie or the magazine, but I guess like many I would like to see it continue.
Tim

juan · Sep 19, 2007

Back in 1995 digital audio on the home computer was just taking off. A company called Twelve Tone Systems produced a midi sequencer called Cakewalk that was very successful. Then the company decided to add digital auto to the program, and the result was a disaster. The program simply didn't work on some systems and the features of previous versions were absent on the new version.

The company president, Greg Henderschott, signed on to the various email lists dealing with his product and took questions, gave updates on the company's steps to correct the problems, and endured the blasts from unhappy customers. After the release of a fixed version of the software, Greg stayed online for nearly a year answering questions. I've long thought that his simple act of communicating with his customers saved his company. Twelve Tone, and it's current product Sonar, is a major company in digital music today. It seems that some folks in the photo related business could learn from this story.
juan

gr82bart · Sep 19, 2007

juan said:
It seems that some folks in the photo related business could learn from this story.

I couldn't agree more. I've been watching some of the 'business' on this and other photography boards, and I shake my head in bewilderment at the 'unearned errors' that have been committed. Anyway, it ain't my business, so I'll just keep watching.

Regards, Art.

Dorothy Blum Cooper · Sep 19, 2007

I wish Aggie and John had been more honest with us.

I'll most certainly second that statement. For personal reasons, I can't join the chorus of revelers that sing accolades for Emulsion or their faith in its longevity.

I've followed this and other threads on the same topic here and on the LF forum.

I won't use Apug as the platform to list my grievances, however, I can confidently say that I would not trust the magazine nor the individual who is running it.

WarEaglemtn · Sep 19, 2007

When View Camera magazine started they were a small time magazine printed on nice but inexpensive paper and held together with staples. During the growth through the years it has gotten better in ink, paper and size.

Steve Simmons kept to his publishing schedule and answered his critics on this and other boards and kept at it. He didn't let personal troubles stop the magazine on its scheduled publication date, only the few odd printing troubles did this.

Any publication that relys on only one person is in trouble if that person is troubled. We have been on Steve for years about his proof reading and finally he did something about it. But, through it all there was View Camera, year in and out and there was Steve on the boards answering questions and taking his shots. The magazine is still here and while he is still the head guy he long ago got qualified people to help so it was not a one man show.

Emulsion appears to be a 'one man show' and while that girl is running around Mexico the appearance is that the rag is on death row.

Make the scheduled publication dates, no matter what the personal excuses or reasons. A publishers printing problem is one thing but a bunch of people all relying on one person who may be committed but doesn't appear to be just does not work.

If someone came to me with this as an investment proposal I would look at the history of it all and walk away. For all public appearance the rag is in trouble. Maybe it will survive, but not by pissing off those who would be the core group of subscribers.

jimgalli · Sep 19, 2007

We are all used to the old Gold Standard days when Kodak had an army of english speaking people to answer the 1-800 number and answer any question.

Folks, I hates to be the one to inform you but those days are gone. From now on we will all have to get used to niche providers, little mom and pop businesses, that will endeavor to meet our needs and make a small profit. You can expect them to be quirky. Also expect them to come and go with the morning breeze. The days of decade long constants is over!

The comparison to Steve is valid and that is a good model for other providers to shoot for. We are lucky to have him! Still I urge you to be patient with the little mom and pop businesses. That is the new real world for the film community . Aggie is as quirky and aggravating as a person can get. I wish Sean would have cut her (and Emulsion mag) a little more slack. I fear that his striking the magazine from APUG probably was it's death knell.

Or you can buy a Canon 5D I suppose.

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