Define the characteristics you are after then. You can do quite drastic things in processing & printing that will fundamentally alter the imaging behaviour of a film.
Is anyone else unhappy with today's films?
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Define the characteristics you are after then. You can do quite drastic things in processing & printing that will fundamentally alter the imaging behaviour of a film.
The warmth and realism that only Kodachrome provided.
If you can't see it for yourself, then I can't help you!
It's kinda funny that you're challenging PE on his knowledge of color emulsions.
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+1 ... and kodachrome
you can filter other slide film and get the same warmth and realism ... it really isn't that hard
This is nonsensical. K-12 (pre-1974) and earlier Kodachrome was warm (especially in flesh tones) - no question about that - I've scanned 1950s K-chrome & you can see how 'wrong' the colour is relative to what might be regarded as normally perceived colour. And that's before we get on to Kodachrome's sometimes odd sense of what 'green' is.
However, K-14 Kodachrome could be downright chilly. Its main selling points seem to have been the immense resolution of KM25 (in the era before 1980s/90s film technology) in 35mm and very high archival stability (again pre-1980s/90s). In both regards there are modern films that equal or exceed it.
Appropriately handled (ie optically printed or properly scanned - not in a second rate minilab machine), Ektar is far better for clean, saturated colour. Portra 160 for accurate, less saturated colour, 400 for warmer & a touch more saturation. 800 if the light is funny & there's not a lot of it.
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I think that, in considering the whole question of color rendering of films, and color matching generally, we can completely overlook our individual differences in color vision. I've been told by an optomotrist that it's quite likely (though hard to prove!) we each perceive colors slightly differently, which maybe why some think Kodachrome is an exact match for nature, while others prefer the Velvia-style rendering. Certainly there are recognised tests for color vision, which are used for staff in businesses like fabric dyeing and printing.
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Please do not confuse the OP with facts. Stick to alternative truths.
I've done more than see it, I've measured it! Kodachrome is sharp and low in grain, but the colors are actually quite bad for a "good" color film. If you like it so much, your color perception must be quite far different than the rest of us.
I stand by my comment. Show us, in your own pictures, what you are talking about in your posts.
Thanks.
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On the contrary, I'm happy that I still can shoot it! There are more BW films out there then realistically I can try and master. I'm very excited to see we get Ektachrome back! I need to get a 6x6 camera while I still have the chance to shoot some of those great slide films.
PS: on the topic of Kodachrome, some people might prefer the artistic expression it gave. Who is to say film has to render reality? I love the pallet of Ektar, for example, and it's far from "true color". Would love to have something similar for slides.
PS: on the topic of Kodachrome, some people might prefer the artistic expression it gave. Who is to say film has to render reality? I love the pallet of Ektar, for example, and it's far from "true color". Would love to have something similar for slides.
By stating the obvious? How convenient!
Warmth perhaps, but realism? No other film images like Kodachrome!
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any film will portray realism.
and there are plenty of film images like kodachrome.
and there are plenty of film images like kodachrome.
This doesn't prove a thing! There are plenty of engineers who cannot perceive the fine and subtle differences that exists between the products they create!
Sorry, but your inability to see these differences fails to disqualify my claims!
People have known me by many names, yet they fail to truly recognize me each and every time.
I have a strong feeling APUGers are coming up with a few more.
Ironically, you are correct! But not for the reasons you assume!
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you haven't articulated any claims at all ...
In which alternate universe did this fail to occur?
You haven't presented any evidence to support your claims.
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