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fabulousrice said:
Urethane? Can you share a link on a commercial website of the material you're talking about?

Thanks for the website but it's the third website recommendation I receive that looks like it was designed by a pre-teen 30 years ago and never updated... How would I trust someone who wants to help me make something look good if their own website looks like trash garbage? Lol... If my eyes don't peel of trying to make sense of what looks like the whole phone book rolled into one single home page, I'll try to search again for decent alternatives for future projects!
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https://www.colophonbookarts.com
https://www.talasonline.com

http://aki-asahi.com/store/ is pretty much the place to go for camera covers
and has supplied thousands of people with skins for their cameras.
there's also camera leather in Vermont but he's now a 1 person operation and sometimes can take
a very-very longlong-long, LONG long time to fulfill orders.

have fun with the bling!
 
eddie said:
Maybe if it had sequins. Seriously, having to dress up a camera to attract younger users is one of the dumbest thing I've ever read here.
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eddie
you know as well as I know for the past IDK 10+ years its been like that, actually more than that. cameras have been fashion accessories for a lot of people old and young. people like to shelf-queen when they aren't carrying it around. I've seen lots of people with new rollers or hasy's who have no idea how to load them,
 
jnantz said:
cameras have been fashion accessories for a lot of people old and young.
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I think there's always been a degree of that in photography. Some people are more into the gear than what the gear can help create.
 
fabulousrice said:
So you're saying that you're not a conservative before proving that you really are a hardcore one...
Just because someone owns a camera doesn't mean that they will ever have any taste... it's the sad truth of websites like this one where opinions are shared more often than quality work...
At the same time, it is america's most blatant insult for the european immigrant. The astounding lack of taste and absence of aesthetic standards... there's a reason why great artists were never americans...
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You're a troll. Dont let the door hit ya on the way out, and I think it will be swinging soon.
 
fabulousrice said:
So you're saying that you're not a conservative before proving that you really are a hardcore one...
Just because someone owns a camera doesn't mean that they will ever have any taste... it's the sad truth of websites like this one where opinions are shared more often than quality work...
At the same time, it is america's most blatant insult for the european immigrant. The astounding lack of taste and absence of aesthetic standards... there's a reason why great artists were never americans...
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I am more a softcore conservative than a hardcore one.
With strong progressive tendencies - it is a Canadian sort of thing.
And I'm happy that you like your camera. Just as I'm content in my ability/right to dislike what you have done with it.
You will not find me trying to tell you what you and others should like. Can you say the same about yourself?
And by the way, this site does permit the sharing of photographs, but that isn't what it is about.
It is about the conversation, and the community.
The best sharing happens in the print exchanges, which are far closer to the site's core values than the digital gallery ever will be.
You are welcome to get whatever benefit you can from Photrio/APUG, but unless you start "reading the room" a bit better, you aren't going to be appreciated for your being here.
 
Dali said:
Who told you that it is related (even remotely) to Salvador? Looks like you are making a lot of assumptions without much knowledge.

Welcome to my "Ignore" list.
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For someone with a Gotlib avatar you don't have much humor
 
Andrew O'Neill said:
She taught me good manners and to be respectful of others, unlike you. Sadly, she has stage 4 cancer and is fighting for her life. You just earned your way onto my ignore list. Lots of other have done the same as well, I see.
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Sorry to hear about your mother, I sincerely hope she makes it.
No one has ever said "your mom" meaning to imply said person...
 
Andrew Patteson said:
I wanted you to get approval for the shiny gold camera. You got some love, some respect, and some opposite. I don't love it, for what *I* would want, but the shininess made me smile, and I think it's cool if you rescued it and it makes you happy and makes you or someone else want to shoot more film. I hope you keep using it or can sell it to someone else who likes shiny cameras! Keep doing your thing! I approve!

But on the other hand your responses to those who didn't like your camera are obnoxious (I think if you re-read them you might see this?). Maybe I am wasting my time saying this, but it seems like you have interesting stuff to contribute here if you don't alienate anyone who might want to interact with you.
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Thanks for the input. Someone recently told me that I have to think about these dusty old forums as a bar...
Makes sense, no? Bars have rude people calling each other out, drunk people, people wanting to start a fight. I'm just following this ancient user's guidelines...
 
MattKing said:
It is about the conversation, and the community.
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As far as the conversation and the community goes, it's pretty obvious that there's really no room for doing anything slightly different here, or anything that strays from stale, old ways, without being immediately riled/ignored/blocked. And even more riled/ignored/blocked for standing up to incoherent and aggressive ramblings.
I don't really call this a "community" or valid conversations at all. Every single other online community I use seems open to new ideas, to rethinking and reinventing the old boring ways which pretty much killed film photography.
I'm sure I could "fit the mold" by sharing how I used such or such chemical to process such or such film, or fixed an old shutter that was sticky to get some heads to bow in agreement, while not really getting any excitement in the process, but for christ's sake this forum is so conservative. No young people, no people of color, no queers... just a bunch of old white straight dudes who don't value originality or things they would never have thought of. Black and white portraits is all the rage... cool cool cool.
And the only tool people have to express their discontent is to "ignore" one another? And then what? Totally ludicrous. Meanwhile anyone can say anything that pops in their head on any thread they want to share their two cents and that's what "makes a community"?
I have much healthier exchanges (and reputation) on websites where people have better, more modern tools of communication than to either criticize or to ignore each other...
 
eddie said:
I own neither Leica or Hasselblad gear. (Funny, though that you write about "looky-loo cameras on a thread about your "looky-loo" camera.)
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I'm referring to overhyped gear, omnipresent in old people's photographic circles, and I'd be surprised if you were not aware that there are such trends.
Not old cameras without any hype to them that no one thought could be used or fancied up.
 
jnantz said:
https://www.colophonbookarts.com
https://www.talasonline.com

http://aki-asahi.com/store/ is pretty much the place to go for camera covers
and has supplied thousands of people with skins for their cameras.
there's also camera leather in Vermont but he's now a 1 person operation and sometimes can take
a very-very longlong-long, LONG long time to fulfill orders.

have fun with the bling!
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Finally a good looking website! (Colophon).
Which one of these products is the "urethane" you mentioned?
The Talas website is very interesting especially this paper - somewhat old school though.
A lot of the leather on there is said to be 1mm thick, which is too thick for camera covers unfortunately.
I also feel a bit for the animals getting slaughtered for these leather parts? Doesn't say anywhere that the materials come from a humane source?
 
jnantz said:
eddie
you know as well as I know for the past IDK 10+ years its been like that, actually more than that. cameras have been fashion accessories for a lot of people old and young. people like to shelf-queen when they aren't carrying it around. I've seen lots of people with new rollers or hasy's who have no idea how to load them,
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Cameras have *always* been a fashion accessory. Eddie... any group of photographers you'll ever hang with will display their gear to you very visibly with intense pride.
It's just not the kind of gear that the digital generation or the smartphone generation necessarily gets wet about... which, in turn, is kind of sad since I'm trying in as many humble ways I can, to spark an interest for film photography in younger people (yes, even under 15 years old works...). They will decide if film photography still exists in 40 years, not the majority of photo grandpas haunting this forum.
 
fabulousrice said:
Cameras have *always* been a fashion accessory. Eddie... any group of photographers you'll ever hang with will display their gear to you very visibly with intense pride.
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I've done work commercially, and in the "art" field, and have many friends who have done the same. Gear is seen as tools. Sure, we've discussed purchases, but only in the context of why it was needed for their business, not how it looks to others.
 
fabulousrice said:
.... I'm trying in as many humble ways I can, to spark an interest for film photography in younger people (yes, even under 15 years old works...)
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I've allowed young people in to use my darkroom on a regular basis, lent them cameras, and taught them how to hand paint their photos. Most of the "old people" you disparage on the site have done the same.
 
fabulousrice said:
No young people, no people of color, no queers... just a bunch of old white straight dudes who don't value originality or things they would never have thought of.
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It appears that you only see what you expect to see. That is unfortunate for you.
 
I find this site pretty welcoming to anyone- old, young,women, men, gay, straight, trans, poc, etc.
 
fabulousrice said:
No young people, no people of color, no queers... just a bunch of old white straight dudes who don't value originality or things they would never have thought of. Black and white portraits is all the rage... cool cool cool.
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As a reference to others who may be new to this forum the above statement is complete bollocks from several perspectives. Bringing ethnicity into this discussion is frankly odd as well...
 
eddie said:
I've done work commercially, and in the "art" field, and have many friends who have done the same. Gear is seen as tools. Sure, we've discussed purchases, but only in the context of why it was needed for their business, not how it looks to others.
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Different groups than the fetishists I've met and who skewed my perception of photography for a while. They do exists... out in the open!
 
eddie said:
I've allowed young people in to use my darkroom on a regular basis, lent them cameras, and taught them how to hand paint their photos. Most of the "old people" you disparage on the site have done the same.
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I have nothing but high praise for people who do what you did.
Communicating with younger people is definitely a good way to fight what age does to a person.
But surely you must understand that for some, film photography looks stale and super boring and it's important to find the right words or camera coverings to prove them wrong
 
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