Interesting NYtimes article about the cost of digital storage compared to film storag

[clayne]

Interesting NYtimes article about the cost of digital storage compared to fil...

Yep. The current marketing and selling of digital is pretty much a scam for something that isn't terribly broken. For major studios, the medium is the LEAST of their issues.

5219 == Vision3 500T. One of their most excellent film stocks.

It's amazing just how much we're forsaking. Super-70 format is absolutely amazing and its not even 8-perf 70mm. There was a point in time where movie goers were exposed to the most ridiculous amounts of resolution that even today we don't even see projected. Like I said: scam.

 

[RattyMouse]

Slightly OT but in the ballpark, Perhaps not everyone is sold on digital start to finish. J.J. Abrams has hired Dan Mindel to shoot the next Star Wars film on 35mm Kodak 5219.
A quote from Mindel's IMDB profile:
"I think the film medium is irreplaceable. The rendition of film is so good and the quality is so high, especially when you use large format. That is something we won't be able to do with HD for years. I was watching Vertigo yesterday, which was a VistaVision movie. My god, the quality! You could project that on the wide of the Queen Mary and it's going to look good

It would be interesting to see how many directors and cinematographers feel such a strong affinity towards film.

 

[Alexis M]

This is typical. Everything now, whether deliberate or not, is planned to be obsolete in the not-too-distant future. Our economy is now based largely on waste. Nothing gets fixed or upgraded, it get tossed and a new one is bought to replace it.

Yup, my girlfriend just bought a sewing machine from 1948, largely considered to be the rolls roys of sewing machines, it's is made to last generations, all steel parts, i look at it from both a mecanical engineers eye and an artists and it is fantastic. Nothing sold today is made like that...today everything you buy is a scam it seems...dont get me started on cell phones.

 

[clayne]

It would be interesting to see how many directors and cinematographers feel such a strong affinity towards film.

Quite a few actually. Ignore the marketing hype.

 

[CatLABS]

Quite a few actually. Ignore the marketing hype.

Yet the digital HD projection in the cinema i saw the other day of an xmen or another was incrdible, and by far surpassed any of the best film projections ih ave ever seen in the 20 years of cinemateque free pass i have.
Unless JJ will be filming the new star wars on a blue screen and using optical printing, he too, will eventually have to convert the material to digital at some point in order to add the CGI it is undoubtedly going to have in 99.9% of the shots. If that is later printed to film for projection... what difference does it make? if it was shot on film in the first place and then projected digitally, what difference would that make...?

 

[canuhead]

but fewer and fewer large theatres are projecting film anymore. a couple, but even those are dwindling and will further dwindle as Hollywood continues it's move towards digital projection. unfortunately.

 

[CatLABS]

there is nothing bad about digital projection. if anything its better. The bright point here is that holliwood is not the largest film industry in the world, and in many places around the world film is the only material used for cinema productions.
I recently ran in to a mega company that makes million dollar machines that scan convert and print cinematic film for the film industries in which it is both the original source material and projection material.

 

[AgX]

but fewer and fewer large theatres are projecting film anymore. a couple, but even those are dwindling and will further dwindle as Hollywood continues it's move towards digital projection. unfortunately.

Even at Agfa at the plant cinema digital projection is used, next to where those cine print films are made,...

 

[clayne]

The article isn't really talking about archiving all the release prints digitally. Personally I believe release prints to be better - but that's not the real battle. The real battle is the OCN being film and NOT digital.

 

[CatLABS]

OCN?

 

[clayne]

Original Camera Negative.