Inkjet the developers on film with using digital picture file

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

Hello ,

I am thinking out of box for to satisfy my hunger brain.
New rabbit from the hat is :
As you know cinema cameras record on film and digital harddisk at the same time.
If we record on film and digital picture file together
And if we see the tonal scale of the digital file
And if we want to change the tonal scale with other reference ansel adams print - mit computer engineering research -
And if we use this new file to inkjet multi different developers on to the film and paper
What happens ?
For to register the film in photograph machine , photograph machine could perforate the film per frame

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

 

[keithwms]

Not sure I get the gist of your idea, but I can contribute this much: the ink from inkjets tends to puddle on smooth plastic surfaces. So I am thinking that an aqueous solution will puddle up on the film. Thus you'd need a fair excess of fluid to actually coat the film. This would seem to be at odds with the inkjet design, whch uses ink as sparingly as possible.

Assuming that I understand your idea, let me make a counterproposal. You go ahead and make your exposure on film and on digital. You write a program that takes the histogram from the digital file and compares it to what you need for whatever output method you desire. Your program tunes your development accordingly.

This is a bit similar, in spirit, to capturing a raw file and then modifying it (colour temp, exposure, etc.) before it is converted to tiff or jpeg for printing. I haven't kept up with that, but I suppose raw converters are now advanced enough to allow you to curve and do HDR merges etc. The big difference between this and what I mention above is that with b&w film there is almost no limit to what you can do to rescue detail at either or at both ends of the tone scale. I mean, with R3 you can decide your ISO after you shoot.... so why not decide ISO and how long the tone scale is as well, by tuning the development.

Is this what you were talking about?

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

Well , this mit research is more than histograms and raw files and hdrs.
It is about puting different density noise in to the different zones , mimicking the original reference image.
When I told to my nikon dealer friend about this , he said i can do that with curves.
You cant change a poor violin in to stradivari with an eq. You need to put details in some notes. This mit research is what it is.
My idea is more than that and i dont know what can it work for.
You can enlarge a print on to a paper and with your new zone system , you can inject different monobath developers to different places.
I think this is new electronic zone system with pixel by pixel masking feature.
Yes , tuning the development and developer selection pixel by pixel.
This is what i m talking about.

Mustafa Umut Sarac

 

[Bob Carnie]

Ok

really interesting ideas tossed around here. I must mull this over for awhile.