Inkjet developer reference to digital analog scan camera

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I am thinking to build a camera which will slit scan the panorama on to film and to digital linear array.
Than inkjet different developers on to film with referencing digital output.
What is the advantage of this technology ?

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Mustafa Umut Sarac

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I have no idea what you are up to or after. It sounds both completely crazy and completely novel experimental at once...

"Scan panaroma onto film"???
Inkjet "developer-onto-film"???

I think you will need to elaborate a bit more on the techniques and what you are after for a serious response...

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I am talking about slit scan camera which uses slit as lens.
Inkjet the developer on to the film.
I think these are not difficult .
 

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here is what I would suggest in your goal.
Purchase a Noblex panoramic camera it uses a slit for exposure.
then with helectiar ink transfer apply the ink to film in darkness. I believe you will get great results.
good luck in your endeavors.
Bob

I am talking about slit scan camera which uses slit as lens.
Inkjet the developer on to the film.
I think these are not difficult .
 

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It sounds interesting but problematic.

The first thing that comes to mind is that your average inkjet printer does not have perfect page registration. Any page that goes through an inkjet printer can be skewed a couple of millimeters in any direction. It would be very difficult for the printer to squirt a drop of developer on the exact spot of the image that is required. I think this would call for "tractor feed" mechanisms like the old dot matrix impact printers used to use. It would also call for specially perforated paper/film to fit in the tractor mechanism. I think the paper would also have to have registration markers of some kind on it. Of course, it would need a mechanism to read those marks. There would have to be something in the camera as well.

All of this would have to be held down to a precision of a few microns or less. Then, to put the cherry on top of the cake, the whole thing would have to be light-tight from start to finish. How could you put the film into the camera, register it with the mechanism, and take a photo? Afterward, you would need to remove the film from the camera and register it with the printer mechanism. All of this would have to be done in the dark to prevent the film from being spoiled while being processed.

You can't use LEDs and optical scanners to register the film. The light (even infrared or UV) would destroy the film. Using notches on the film to register with mechanical sensors in the devices would not give enough precision. Maybe you could use magnetic stripes similar to the magnetic soundtracks used on movies. The electromagnetic read/write mechanism would be quite unwieldy and expensive. In fact, this whole system would be very expensive.

I have another question. Isn't the idea of making photographs all about controlling exposure while keeping development consistent? Therefore, if this is true, then applying developer to the film/paper in a non-uniform manner would make print processing difficult. Wouldn't it?

I have another idea...

What if you used a laser printer setup instead? You made your photo in the camera and electronically "printed" it to the laser printer. The printer exposes the individual pixels directly onto the paper/film. Then, instead of passing through an electrically charged platen or roller system to apply toner, the film went through a series of chemical developing baths.

The chemistry could be packaged in cartridges much like toner or ink is today. When a cartridge is empty or wears out, just take the old one out and replace it.

Maybe I am completely off base? I am not sure I understand your reason for inventing such a device. What do you think it will gain? It is a very interesting idea but I am not sure I understand what will be the benefits of doing this.
 

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Maybe I am completely off base? I am not sure I understand your reason for inventing such a device. What do you think it will gain? It is a very interesting idea but I am not sure I understand what will be the benefits of doing this.

My idea when I first read the message from the OP. It more sounds like an interesting conceptual art work design (nothing against that if you do it good!, I love art... :wink:), than any practically useful device, especially the concept of ink-jetting developer has me startled.
 
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I think I am impressed from APS camera system. I did not heard or read anything about it for least 10 years but it was about printing referencing the electronic expose record on the film.
I dont know whether they were developing the film with this electronic record also ?
Warshiping to chemicals goes back 20 years ago when I was reading Ansel catalogs , his paper , chemical and lens selection.
Its about to make two points on paper or film different with different chemical droplets.
They call these concepts intelligent design.

I will post another thread with referencing worker friend.:smile:

Thank you ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul
 
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