This is a great print. It's impressive how you used contrast creatively to make the tree stand out, looking luminous. I've tried to achieve a similar look before and rarely succeeded. I do think that the rebate works very well here, by the way.
This is a great print. It's impressive how you used contrast creatively to make the tree stand out, looking luminous. I've tried to achieve a similar look before and rarely succeeded. I do think that the rebate works very well here, by the way.Next I used a different negative carrier which allowed the rebate to be printed. The black border framed the print better in my opinion.
These both are printed on 8x10 paper with about 1" border.
Also, the edges of this particular negative carrier are not that aesthetically pleasing, so the edges are cropped out. I do have some carriers with filed out edges that look nice, but I would have had to change enlargers to see that one. I was pretty happy with the smooth outer border on this print.
now Stanley is almost entirely made in China, and is best characterized as a Junk plane instead
He was actually my gallery rep at one time, but then got heavily involved in grand scale woodworking here, at least two decades for Ellison, building that giant Port Orford cedar home and its furnishing over at Woodside, as well as both his enormous wooden yachts (but not the even bigger carbon fiber yacht later). I equipped all those projects with their tools, machinery, even coatings. Last time I visited him he had just completed a little scale model of a Ming temple all floating tenon style just like the original. No nails or glue.
Yes, but that's just the little "garden shack", what they termed the Gazebo.
I don't think I have any prints where I've included the rebate, or prints where the presentation would have been improved by doing so. It's getting into pretty loaded "hipster" territory for me, where a lot of current photographers feel the need to scream about how their photos are done on film. Including the rebate seems to serve no other purpose, to the point that I've seen digital photos with fake rebates photoshopped on.
Me too. I like it, because it says (to me anyway), "this is what I saw. Nothing more or less." Usually I have to crop so I don't get to use the rebate all that much.When shooting film full-frame, I've often included the rebates.
Lol! We can still be friends....printing kallitypes. (With digital negatives -- I admit my apostasy.)
Me too. I like it, because it says (to me anyway), "this is what I saw. Nothing more or less." Usually I have to crop so I don't get to use the rebate all that much.
I shoot and print full frame but do not include the rebate. I don't think I have ever been at a photo exhibit where I looked at an image and wondered whether the photographer had cropped it.
I often shoot full frame with no rebate as well. Including the rebate is an approach that needs to fit the project.
When shooting film full-frame, I've often included the rebates. The irony is that the "hipsters," as you call them, include the rebates for proof of authenticity. But then it becomes a meme, and suddenly people start photoshopping fake borders into digital images, which looks really ersatz -- not at all authentic.
I've spent the past year printing kallitypes. (With digital negatives -- I admit my apostasy.) Alt process prints usually have borders, simply because of how the processes work. What really gets me is when I see someone pasting alt process borders around digital images -- again, glaringly obvious because the image has far more contrast and detail than the process permits.
The now passe fad of including filed borders was just about as corny as it gets in my opinion.
hm, faberryman says including film borders has been done since the 1960s and I can see evidence of that simple truth easily. Is it still a fad if it has lasted sixty years? Maybe it was corny in 1960? I don’t think it was fwiw.
I've got that fellow on ignore for a reason, so don't know what he posted. If wildly filed carrier borders were corny way back in the 60's, they're even more corny now. That prank is long overdue for a proper funeral. But examples of plain print borders, either masked off or due to a moulding rabbet, probably go back as far as contact printing itself. I have no idea which style he's referring to. The present thread is related to rabbets or rebates or reveals, whichever synonymous term you prefer. A jagged edge is unrelated unless termites or carpenter ants got to your printing frame.
I've got that fellow on ignore for a reason, so don't know what he posted. If wildly filed carrier borders were corny way back in the 60's, they're even more corny now. That prank is long overdue for a proper funeral. But examples of plain print borders, either masked off or due to a moulding rabbet, probably go back as far as contact printing itself. I have no idea which style he's referring to. The present thread is related to rabbets or rebates or reveals, whichever synonymous term you prefer. A jagged edge is unrelated unless termites or carpenter ants got to your printing frame.
The now passe fad of including filed borders was just about as corny as it gets in my opinion. I never personally include black and white borders of any kind unless its a paged album presentation. I do leave a little border area on framed color prints vis easel masking blades, being a black border with Cibachrome and white for chromogenic prints, with the overlaying window mat having a slightly wider opening than the image itself. This is correct practice to prevent expansion/contraction burnishing in the image area by due to a window mat. With drymounted FB b&w prints, those are trimmed to exact composition size prior to final mount, with the overmat window again being a little bigger. The intended full image itself is easily distinguished from the somewhat different museum board and texture, even white on white.
Lol! We can still be friends.
One think I do like about seeing the edge of the negative carrier on the print, (even if a mat might cover it on final presentation), no two negative carriers could have identical filing marks. To me, it is as good as the printmaker's signature.
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